a little confused on leucistics

[SquamishSerpents]

hey there, my boyfriend has absolutely 100% fallen madly in love with white snakes. all of a sudden he doesn't care about my killerbee project, he just wants to make white snakes! i was doing some research and came across this thread: BEL's. it says that a

Mojave X Mojave
Lesser X Lesser
Butter X Butter

will all make blue eyed leucistics. however, i'm not sure if you guys are familiar with this program, i picked it up over at CS.com. the program is called the GenericGenWiz. when i input Mojave x Mojave into the genwiz, i get
25% Normal
50% Mojave
25% Super Mojave

so i'm a little confused. is a super mojave a BEL? it's just so amazing to me what a white snake comes from. mojaves don't look like BEL's AT ALL! and ivorys don't look like yellow bellies AT ALL either! genetics are crazy and totally confusing! but i'm getting a much better handle on it, the sticky's in the section are infinitely helpful.

[Stewart_Reptiles]

so i'm a little confused. is a super mojave a BEL?

Yes the super Mojave is a BEL so is the Super Butter and Super Lesser.

[SquamishSerpents]

also, what on earth is a Russo? is that a morph, or a certain line of snakes?

[RandyRemington]

Vin Russo is a breeder (mostly boas I think) who produced some of the first leucistics proving his own line of blue eyed leucistic hets. It appears to be a unique mutation of the same gene as Lesser/Butter, Mojave, Phantom/Mystic, Hidden, and Special. I think I was writing up my long winded reply to the thread linked in the first post of this thread while this thread was starting. Hopefully I got most of it right and didn't leave too much out but if you really want a long read on the subject go there.

[J.Vandegrift]

hey there, my boyfriend has absolutely 100% fallen madly in love with white snakes. all of a sudden he doesn't care about my killerbee project, he just wants to make white snakes! i was doing some research and came across this thread: BEL's. it says that a

Mojave X Mojave
Lesser X Lesser
Butter X Butter

will all make blue eyed leucistics. however, i'm not sure if you guys are familiar with this program, i picked it up over at CS.com. the program is called the GenericGenWiz. when i input Mojave x Mojave into the genwiz, i get
25% Normal
50% Mojave
25% Super Mojave

so i'm a little confused. is a super mojave a BEL? it's just so amazing to me what a white snake comes from. mojaves don't look like BEL's AT ALL! and ivorys don't look like yellow bellies AT ALL either! genetics are crazy and totally confusing! but i'm getting a much better handle on it, the sticky's in the section are infinitely helpful.

If you want a truly white snake don't use two mojaves. I would go with a female mojave and a male lesser. That is probably your cheapest option to get a white snake that is actually white.

[hogboy]

For the whitest of the white, go for Fire X Fire
And you might get one of these

[J.Vandegrift]

For the whitest of the white, go for Fire X Fire
And you might get one of these

I love the fire's, but it seems like most of them end up with some yellow scales. Yours looks perfect. Wish they all looked like that.

[OhhWatALoser]

For the whitest of the white, go for Fire X Fire
And you might get one of these

most firexfire breedings ive seen have yellow spots, sure theres nice pure white ones but i think their in the minority, but if you want black eyes, i don't think you got a choice.

as far as blue eyes go, id say just stay away from mojaves and you got a good chance of pure white snakes.

[Oxylepy]

Lesser/Lesser. That's the way to go, by far the best results.

Well.......... unless you can get 2 in Russos, but that'd be costly.

[SquamishSerpents]

thanks a lot guys! we will be attending the BCRC show and sale in BC, Canada this september, hoping to pick up a pair to make white snakes! also, im getting a male pastel, a pair of caramel corns, a pair of bloodred corns, hopefully some striped or het stripe corns, and who knows what else! recently i`ve fallen hopelessly in love with caramel albinos...but they seem very, very pricey. henry piorun had some advertised for $3000 each! i have no idea if those prices are current or not though, so i guess we`ll see when we get to the show!