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    Has This Been Produced?

    Well call me insane but I had a dream last night that a very (crazy) kind breeder gave me a BP he recently produced. (Yeah, ONLY in my dreams. ) It was beautiful. It was an Axanthic Spider Pied.

    I am wondering if this has been produced or is currently being worked on? I know there's the Spied and Axanthic Pied but both? PICTURES if there are any.
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    Re: Has This Been Produced?

    Double recessives are still just in their infancy, not many have been mixed with co-dom yet. In the next few years I would bet an axanthic pied spider will be produced but I doubt it has been produced yet.
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    Re: Has This Been Produced?

    hmm.... Breed an axanthic spider to pied.. Get an another axanthic spider het pied.. Breed the axanthic spider het pied back to the pied...

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    Re: Has This Been Produced?

    I don't really see the point of even trying to produce that morph. A spider pied is already so high white, that an ax spider pied would just be an all white snake with a gray and black head.
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    Re: Has This Been Produced?

    Quote Originally Posted by DBD View Post
    hmm.... Breed an axanthic spider to pied.. Get an another axanthic spider het pied.. Breed the axanthic spider het pied back to the pied...
    Axanthic Spider x Pied will yield:

    Spider Het Axanthic Het Pied
    Het Axanthic Het Pied

    Axanthic Spider Het Pied x Pied will yield:

    Spied (Spider Pied) Het Axanthic
    Pied Het Axanthic
    Spider Het Pied Het Axanthic
    Het Pied Het Axanthic

    You need to pair double hets up in order to get the double recessive.

    Spider Het Pied Het Axanthic x Het Pied Het Axanthic
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    Re: Has This Been Produced?

    Quote Originally Posted by panthercz View Post
    I don't really see the point of even trying to produce that morph. A spider pied is already so high white, that an ax spider pied would just be an all white snake with a gray and black head.
    It depends on how the Axanthic gene conflicts with the Spider gene when produced with a Pied. Axanthic Pieds are not all white except for the head, so there's a chance it would have less white in an Axanthic Spider Pied and more pattern on it's body.
    It can not be guarenteed that the genes will look the same when combined.

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    Re: Has This Been Produced?

    Quote Originally Posted by blackcrystal22 View Post
    It depends on how the Axanthic gene conflicts with the Spider gene when produced with a Pied. Axanthic Pieds are not all white except for the head, so there's a chance it would have less white in an Axanthic Spider Pied and more pattern on it's body.
    It can not be guarenteed that the genes will look the same when combined.
    True, but unlikely. Look at the Bumblebee (Pastel Spider) Pied...
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    Re: Has This Been Produced?

    Quote Originally Posted by blackcrystal22 View Post
    It depends on how the Axanthic gene conflicts with the Spider gene when produced with a Pied. Axanthic Pieds are not all white except for the head, so there's a chance it would have less white in an Axanthic Spider Pied and more pattern on it's body.
    It can not be guarenteed that the genes will look the same when combined.
    I would imagine the axanthic gene wouldn't do much considering it seems pretty neutral when it comes to pattern.
    The axanthic killer bee, bumble bee, clown, pastel, pinstripe, etc. all seem to have the same pattern as their non-axanthic counterparts.

    I assume the axanthic spider pied would be no different...but you never know.
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    Re: Has This Been Produced?

    Quote Originally Posted by LGL View Post
    Look at the Bumblebee Pied...
    Are you serious? Or joking? 'Cause bumblebees and pieds are my two fave morphs...

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    Re: Has This Been Produced?

    Quote Originally Posted by abuja View Post
    Are you serious? Or joking? 'Cause bumblebees and pieds are my two fave morphs...
    It's an all white snake with just a little yellow on the head. Cool, but probably not what you're envisioning.
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