One step below a burm?

[mainbutter]

Scrub (amethystine) pythons get about 15ft too, but have a thinner build. Some have been known to get much larger than 15 feet. (up to 28 feet, I read )

Kinghorni, the really big scrub species, are extremely rare in captivity, bar-necks which are more common are quite smaller than kinghornis.

[mainbutter]

back on topic, +1 on indian pythons.

[SGExotics]

I take it you are wanting a burm, but are wanting some experience with larger snakes first?

Well, my friend has been letting me "Baby sit" his 09 albino burm for a while and said if i want it i can have him... But i dont feel comfortable keeping a burm in New York without a permit... I mean, i feel very comfortable handling a 100+ lbs snake, but would rather have a large snake i dont need to have a permit for...

To make my question more specific... If anyone can give suggestions that dont include the following snakes....

As of March 15, 2005 New York State increased the list of banned species that private owners are allowed to possess without special permits. Listed below are the current list of regulated animals.

Snakes
All venomous species as determined by the DEC
Burmese Python (Python m. bivittatus)
Reticulated Python (Python reticulatus)
African Rock Python (Python sabae)
Green Anaconda (Eunectes maurinus)
Yellow Anaconda (Eunectes notaeus)
Australian Amethystine Python (Morelia amethistina and Morelia kinghorni)
Indian Python (Python molurus)

[tbowman]

Pretty much knocked all the big ones out of the park. How do you get the permit?

[SGExotics]

Pretty much knocked all the big ones out of the park. How do you get the permit?

Im not sure... Im on the NYSDEC website now.. I cant find anything on how to get a permit.. I did however find out some info on the regulated reptiles page (From the Western New York Herpetological Society).... The link to the page is here:http://exoticpets.about.com/gi/dynam...ese-python.php

They do make this statement VERY clear though...
"The DEC is not actively searching for these banned animals. The last thing the overworked and understaffed DEC needs is another law to enforce, however law enforcement officers in New York State will be required to enforce the law if a complaint is filed. Complaints will most likely be filed as a result of a bite, a domestic dispute or a flagrant violation."

I mean, if i did keep a burm, there would never be a complaint filed.. I have very good (Family oriented) neighbors who are aware and love my reptile keeping hobby.. And the snake is going to be in professionally made enclosures all its life... With lots of secure locks... And will only be taken out IN my house, and never brought into public... So i mean, do you think i could keep one without the permit?

[waltah!]

If that's the case maybe pick up a female blood. They don't get nearly as long as burms, but can be huge in girth.

[tbowman]

I'm looking too. I'll let you know if I find anything.

[SGExotics]

If that's the case maybe pick up a female blood. They don't get nearly as long as burms, but can be huge in girth.

Yea, i was just thinking about them... If i can't keep a burm, im probably going to go with a Female Red Blood...

[tbowman]

There has got to be a way to get a permit lol.

[SGExotics]

There has got to be a way to get a permit lol.

Im looking on http://www.dec.ny.gov/ ... This is where you'd obtain a permit, but i cant find anything on permits for regulated reptiles....

Edit: Okay got to this page which seems to be getting closer to what im looking for.. Im not sure if im just not seeing anything for burms or if there is nothing there: http://www.dec.ny.gov/permits/359.html