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View Poll Results: Does your snake love you?
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06-05-2009, 01:57 PM
#361
Registered User
Re: I think my snake loves me
 Originally Posted by python kid
no,snakes don't have feelings they're mindless.
LOL what!? 
Everyone keeps saying they are instinctive, but can not think; however, they do have the ability to survive. Every living thing has the ability to survive, not every living thing uses it. Hence untimely death. so theres some type of decision making involved.
anyway.. a snake could be thinking the same way of humans. just my 2 cents.
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06-05-2009, 07:42 PM
#362
Re: I think my snake loves me
 Originally Posted by Sanova
anyway.. a snake could be thinking the same way of humans. just my 2 cents.
I agree. It's possible. Maybe they lack the greed for power us humans have and are content to lay low.
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06-05-2009, 08:11 PM
#363
BPnet Veteran
Re: I think my snake loves me
 Originally Posted by b8g8
Love is not something that can be measured.
That said, even if you think that a snake's body (or any body) is just a biological machine and is incapable of love, I don't see what's wrong with people perceiving love from a pet, even if it's "anthropomorphizing." Trying to convince people there is no affection there when they perceive it all the time seems pointlessly cruel to me.
Why try to make less love in the world?
Cus' it's not true.
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06-27-2009, 02:47 AM
#364
Re: I think my snake loves me
I know snakes aren't capable of "love" in the human sense, but they have their own version of it - and I'm sticking to that. Toby (my pastel) is clearly more affectionate toward me than other people, and seems to enjoy my touch. He even likes being rubbed on his head/chin, and gives little snake kisses when he's near my mouth & ears. So while I understand that doesn't qualify as love, he is more loving than I realized snakes could be.
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06-27-2009, 03:29 AM
#365
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06-27-2009, 04:23 AM
#366
Re: I think my snake loves me
 Originally Posted by Qetu
everyone saying its impossible, your wrong. we will never know for sure...theres no way to tell.
Amen to that! Somehow people keep forgetting that we can't read their minds.
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07-27-2009, 04:29 PM
#367
Re: I think my snake loves me
I don't think snakes would ever hae anything personal against someone, but I do believe that they have some emotion. My first BP, Candice, seems like she does have feelings. Like, when I take her out, it seems like she's almost excited to be out and be handled (she always loves to be handled). She also likes it when I pet her head, strangely. She seems to do things that snakes don't like to do. She isn't a scardy cat BP, like my other BP. When she gets startled, she'll move her head back a little then puts it forward again. Here's a strange story I heard one time, and it is true:
One day this lady had to take her Burmese python to the vet while her husband was at work. The snake just needed it's regular check ups to make sure that the snake is healthy. Before she went to the vet, she needed to get gas for her car because it was on low. She put the large python in the back seat of her car, and the python curled up in the back seat and stayed there. The lady got out of her car to get gas, and when she finished she got right back into her car. As soon as she got into the car, a man with a knife got in the front passenger seat and told her to drive while holding the knife up like he was going to stab her if she disobeyed. The snake in the back seat struck out and bit down on the man's shoulder. Then, the snake made an attempt to wrap around the man. The snake stayed like this, wrapped around the man, when his owner called the police. The police quickly came over, and with some coaxing from his owner, the snake let go of the man. This story was in a newspaper arcticle.
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08-11-2009, 12:16 PM
#368
Re: I think my snake loves me
 Originally Posted by CoolioTiffany
One day this lady had to take her Burmese python to the vet while her husband was at work. The snake just needed it's regular check ups to make sure that the snake is healthy. Before she went to the vet, she needed to get gas for her car because it was on low. She put the large python in the back seat of her car, and the python curled up in the back seat and stayed there. The lady got out of her car to get gas, and when she finished she got right back into her car. As soon as she got into the car, a man with a knife got in the front passenger seat and told her to drive while holding the knife up like he was going to stab her if she disobeyed. The snake in the back seat struck out and bit down on the man's shoulder. Then, the snake made an attempt to wrap around the man. The snake stayed like this, wrapped around the man, when his owner called the police. The police quickly came over, and with some coaxing from his owner, the snake let go of the man. This story was in a newspaper arcticle.
Yeah I am going to need a citation for this one. Please provide.
On another note let me give you some insight into this thread. I have a friend of mine who is constantly making bad decisions based on emotions. Early in our friendship she would tell me about these bad decisions and I would tell her they are bad and the logic behind them being bad. Years later we are still friends and we talk often. She tells me about things in her life and sometimes my girlfriend will tell me something about our mutual friend that I do not know. Turns out that she has stopped telling me about her bad decisions. Its almost like she knows which ones are good and which ones are bad and picks and chooses what to tell me so that I won't point out that bad ones. Moral of the story is this. If you want to think your snake loves you great. We can be friends. But if you tell me that your snake loves you then I am going to tell you all about the limbic system and other parts of the brain. I don't care what you believe but I will not pass up an opportunity to educate someone and until you start making decisions based on logic, or walk away, I will continue to point out the error in your logic.
Oh and love can be measured, its called an MRI and the screen changes when you hear your loved ones voice. We may not be that good at measuring love but we certainly can measure it.
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08-15-2009, 05:17 AM
#369
Registered User
Re: I think my snake loves me
Maybe we can, but not accuritley. Science, psychology, religion and all forms of education are important, needed , make us the top of our food chain however, all of it is flaud, statistics are ruled by companies and governments, which are ruled by money, so the truth is pretty nonexistant . Mankind is flawed( I'm not talking about sin, I'm not christian) becuse of the freedom to think indipendently and for the fact that everyone's scope of reality, no matter how similair, is infinitley diffrent from all other humans and animals around us becuse of what we as individuals have faced. We, being at the top of our food chain have been givin the chance to evolve and grow as a race to such an extent that we have obtained the capacity to be good, bad and both at the same time. What I am trying to get at is that we as creative, free thinking and independent beings will see things diffrently from those around us so no matters on emotion, spirituality and education will be agreed on by every individual, and without that their can be no diffinitive source among humanity supporting a absolute truth in any subject of such personnel matters.
I take everything I learn , all data, knowledge "facts" with a grain of salt. With that said, according to psychology, or atleast the college class I took, it is impossible to dittermine wether any animal has feelings like ours. From interaction however, it seems that animals have individual personnalities and emotions, or this could just be my human mind trying to percieve the world through a humans aspect, not a unbiased one. We decide our realities, and I think if we can be individuals and experince emotion, and if we share traits with animals, no matter how great or small, why cant they have emotions and personnalities?
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08-16-2009, 02:14 PM
#370
BPnet Veteran
Re: I think my snake loves me
I don't think that any animal but humans and primates can love. They simply lack the brain power to experience emotions like that. Disagree with me you may, just don't insult me because I think only primates have the level of intelligence to love.
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