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    Can you list bp morphs and sub morphs?

    My girlfriend (ms.aff19802) asked how many morphs there were an i could only name of the top of my head

    Pastel-lemon grazanni black
    pied - and any thing combo
    spider
    pin
    spinner -
    blast
    bee - many versons
    ghost
    yellowbelly

    How many can you name or just add to the list...

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    Re: Can you list bp morphs and sub morphs?

    Roughly 60+/- base mutations
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    Re: Can you list bp morphs and sub morphs?

    To many to list!

    The are many base morphs and even more combo morphs out there.

    Base Morphs
    Pastel
    Spider
    Pinstripe
    Lesser
    Mojave
    Butter
    Ghost
    Clown
    Albino
    Lavender Albino
    Caramel Albino
    Enchi
    Chocolate
    Sable
    Cinnamon
    Black Pastel
    Desert
    Vanilla

    Thats just what I could rattle off the top of my head for base morphs.
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    1.0 100% Het Albino
    1.3 Normal
    1.0 Spider
    0.1 Mojave
    1.0 Pastel 100% Het Goldfinger
    0.1 Pastel 66% Het Goldfinger
    0.1 Pastel PH Goldfinger


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    Re: Can you list bp morphs and sub morphs?

    Clown
    Carmel Albino
    Ghost (Many)
    Purple Passion
    Vanilla
    Zebra Bee
    Pied
    Mojave
    Inferno
    Yellow Belly
    Woma
    Axanthic
    Pastel
    Lesser
    Black/Blue Eyed Leucistic
    Enchi
    Cajun
    Cinnamon
    Opal

    Theres way more but thats all my brain can think of!

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    Re: Can you list bp morphs and sub morphs?

    Lets just put it this way with 60 mutations and no supers involved there are 4.8 million different combos that can be made with out repeating or doubling up on a morph..
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    Re: Can you list bp morphs and sub morphs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Freakie_frog View Post
    Lets just put it this way with 60 mutations and no supers involved there are 4.8 million different combos that can be made with out repeating or doubling up on a morph..
    Let me get out my pad and paper out here.... 60 x 59 x 58 x 57; ah forget this I'll take your word on the 4.8 million
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    1.3 Normal
    1.0 Spider
    0.1 Mojave
    1.0 Pastel 100% Het Goldfinger
    0.1 Pastel 66% Het Goldfinger
    0.1 Pastel PH Goldfinger


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    Re: Can you list bp morphs and sub morphs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spaniard View Post
    Let me get out my pad and paper out here.... 60 x 59 x 58 x 57; ah forget this I'll take your word on the 4.8 million
    Sorry miss typed..it should be 8.3 Billion
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    Re: Can you list bp morphs and sub morphs?

    This is not my list, but rather something I got from the net:

    ALBINO MORPHS
    Recessive color mutation
    ALBINO CLOWN = ALBINO X CLOWN
    ALBINO GHOST = ALBINO X HYPO
    ALBINO PASTEL = ALBINO X PASTEL
    ALBINO SPIDER = ALBINO X SPIDER
    STRIPED ALBINO = GENETIC STRIPE X ALBINO
    SNOW BALL = ANANTHIC /ALBINO X ANANTHIC /ALBINO

    AXANTHIC MORPHS
    Recessive color mutation
    AXANTHIC PASTEL = AXANTHIC X PASTEL
    SNOWBALL = AXANTHIC / ALBINO X AXANTHIC / ALBINO
    AXANTHIC BLACK PASTEL = AXANTHIC X BLACK PASTEL

    BANANA BALL/ CORAL GLOW/ WHITE SMOKE
    Co-dominant color mutation
    BANANA CLOWN = BANANA X CLOWN
    CORAL BEE – CORAL GLOW X SPIDER
    CORAL PASTEL / BANANA PASTEL = CORAL /BANANA X PASTEL

    BANDED/REDUCED PATTERN/TIGER
    Dominant, co-dominant pattern mutation
    Reduced banded albinos = banded x albino
    Zebra pastels = banded x pastel

    BLACK BACK / BLACK STRIPE
    Dominant, co-dominant pattern mutation
    Trait is not reliable has not been proven to be genetically inheritable.
    Compatible with:
    ALBINOS
    PASTELS
    HYPOS

    BLACK HEADED BALL MORPHS
    Dominant, co-dominant pattern & color mutation
    New mutation, well established back striping with good side blushing and clear belly. It is unknown if there is a super form.

    BLACK PASTEL / SUPER BLACK PASTEL
    Co-dominant and pattern mutation / Dominant color and pattern mutation
    AXANTHIC BLACK PASTEL = AXANTHIC X BLACK PASTEL
    BLACK PASTEL PEWTER = BLACK PASTEL X PASTEL JUNGLE
    SUPER BLACK PASTEL = BLACK PASTEL X BLACK OR CINNAMON PASTEL
    SILVER BULLET = BLACK PASTEL X PEWTER
    SILVER STREAK / SUPER PASTEL PEWTER = PEWTER X PASTEL

    BURGUNDY BALL MORPHS
    Recessive color mutation
    These are reddish chocolate color on a yellowish-brown background. They display no black and the extreme form is reddish. Often they are referred to as chocolate hypos. Breeders recognize their potential, but they remain a mystery.

    BUTTERBALL MORPHS
    Dominant color mutation
    HYPO BUTTERS = BUTTER X HYPO
    PASTEL BUTTERS = BUTTER X PASTEL
    BUTTER BEE / SPUTTER BALL = BUTTER X SPIDER

    CALICO/SUGAR/WHITE-SIDED BUBBLEGUM
    Co-dominant color and pattern mutation
    Calico ball pythons have patches of white scales emerging from their bellies and along the sides. While they are young, they contain areas of pink; however, as the snake matures those areas turn white. It is believed that there is more than one line of Calicos. There is a continued debate among breeders as to whether this is one, or more traits
    existing co-dominantly. More breeding is required to confirm or disprove this debate.

    CAMOUFLAGE / SUPER CHOCOLATE BALL
    Co-dominant color and pattern mutation
    The Camouflage Ball is the Super form of the Chocolate Ball. There is one in existence at this time, but hidden.

    CARAMEL ALBINO / AXANTHIC ALBINO
    Recessive color mutation
    T+ Tyrosinase positive albino. The common Albino is T-
    PASTEL CARAMEL = PASTEL X CARAMEL ALBINO
    CARAMEL GLOW = HYPO / CARAMEL ALBINO X HYPO /CARAMEL ALBINO

    CINNAMON PASTEL / SUPER CINNAMON MORPHS
    Co-dominant color and pattern mutation / dominant pattern & color mutation
    CINNABEE = CINNAMON PASTEL X SPIDER
    SILVER BULLET = PEWTER PASTE. X CINNAMON PASTEL
    STERLING PASTEL = PEWTER PASTEL X PASTEL JUNGLE
    PEWTER PASTEL = CINNAMON PASTEL X PASTEL JUNGLE
    SUPER CINNAMON = CINNAMON PASTEL X CINNAMON PASTEL
    CINNAMON YELLOW BELLY = CINNAMON PASTEL X YELLOWBELLY/HET IVORY
    THE SUPER FORM OF THE CINNAMON PASTEL OR BLACK PASTEL IS A
    PATTERN-LESS, ONE-COLORED, BLACKISH DARK BROWN BALL PYTHON

    CLOWN BALL PYTHON
    Recessive pattern and color mutation
    ALBINO CLOWN = ALBINO X CLOWN
    PASTEL CLOWN = PASTEL X CLOWN
    BANANA CLOWN = BANANA X CLOWN

    DESERT GHOST BALL PYTHONS
    Recessive color mutation
    No designer morphs created with this mutation to my knowledge (pls update if you have current info).

    ENCHI PASTEL/ ENCHI SUPER PASTEL
    Co-dominant color and pattern mutation / Dominant color and pattern mutation
    Not your regular pastel; a totally separate mutation with reduced patterns, bright yellow color on the sides and lots of blushing along their backs and sides.
    Stinger bee = enchi pastel x spider
    Super enchi pastel – enchi pastel x enchi pastel

    FIREBALL /HET BLACK-EYED LEUCISTIC
    Co-dominant color mutation
    Fireball is the visual heterozygous form of the Super fire/black-eyed leucistic often referred as a co-dominant hypo. They have a hypo looking yellow color and a very distinct blushed out head marking.

    BLACK-EYED LEUCISTIC / SUPER FIREBALL
    Dominant color mutation
    The Super Fire or Black-eyed Leucistic is the homozygous or Super form of the Fireball/Heterozygous black-eyed luecistic (lucy)
    The Super Fire is an almost totally white snake with black eyes and red pupils.

    GENETIC STRIPE MORPHS
    Recessive pattern mutation
    STRIPED ALBINO = GENETIC STRIPE X ALBINO
    STRIPED PASTEL = GENETIC STRIPE X PASTEL

    GRANITE BALL MORPHS
    Co-dominant pattern mutation
    EBONY BALL = YELLOW BELLY X GRANITE
    GRANITE MOJAVE = MOJAVE X GRANITE
    GRANITE PASTEL = PASTEL X GRANITE

    HYPO BALL PYTHONS
    Hypo/Ghost: Recessive color mutation
    ALBINO GHOST = ALBINO X HYPO
    HYPO MOJAVE = MOJAVE X HYPO
    PASTEL HYPO = PASTEL X HYPO
    HYPO PINSTRIPE = PINSTRIPE X HYPO
    HYPO BUTTER = BUTTER BALL X HYPO
    HONEY BEE / HYPO SPIDER = SPIDER X HYPO
    CARAMEL GLOW = CARAMEL ALBINO X HYPO
    SUPER PASTEL HYPO = PASTEL X PASTEL X HYPO

    IVORY / YELLOW BELLY / SUPER GOBLIN
    Dominant color mutation
    The Ivory is the homozygous-super form of the Yellowbelly/ het Ivory, sometimes called Goblin. Ivories are white snakes with thin yellow stripes on their backs. They are similar to the Lucies.

    LAVENDER ALBINO
    Recessive color mutation
    LAVENDER ALBINO PIED = LAVENDER ALBINO X PIEBALD

    LESSER PLATINUM BALL
    Co-dominant pattern and color mutation
    KING PIN = LESSER PLATINUM X PINSTRIPE
    LESSER BEE = LESSER PLATINUM X SPIDER
    LESSER HYPO = LESSER PLATINUM X HYPO
    LESSER WOMA = LESSER PLATINUM X WOMA
    QUEEN BEE = LESSER PLATINUM X SPIDER X PASTEL
    BLUE-EYED LEUCISTIC = LESSER PLATINUM X PLATINUM,
    LESSER PLATINUM X LESSER PLATINUM,
    LESSER PLATINUM X PHANTOM AND
    LESSER PLATINUM X MOJAVE
    LESSER PASTELS = LESSER PLATINUM X PASTEL (ALSO BLOND AND LEMON)
    *PLATINUM BALL (PLATTY DADDY)
    Dominant color and pattern mutation
    BLUE-EYED LEUCISTIC = PLATINUM X LESSER PLATINUM
    LESSER PLATINUM = PLATINUM X NORMAL

    Leucistic Morphs (PLEASE UPDATE)

    MOJAVE / SUPER MOJAVE MORPHS
    Co-dominant color and pattern mutation / Dominant color and pattern mutation
    HYPO MOJAVE = HYPO X MOJAVE
    SPIDER MOJAVE = SPIDER X MOJAVE
    GRANITE MOJAVE = GRANITE X MOJAVE
    (PASTAVE) PASTEL MOJAVE = PASTEL X MOJAVE
    CRYSTAL BALL = ABERRANT FEMALE X MOJAVE
    YELLOW BELLY MOJAVE = YELLOW BELLY X MOJAVE
    BLUE-EYED LEUCISTIC =MOJAVE X LESSER PLATINUM
    BLUE-EYED LEUCISTIC = MOJAVE X RUSSO LINE HET LEUISTIC
    SUPER MOJAVE / BLUE-EYED LEUCISTIC = MOJAVE X MOJAVE
    STRIPED HARLEQUIN MOJAVE = STRIPED HARLEQUIN X MOJAVE
    HYPO SUPER MOJAVE = HET HYPO SUPER MOJAVE X HET HYPO SUPER MOJAVE

    PASTEL JUNGLE / SUPER PASTEL
    Co-dominant color mutation / Dominant color mutation
    ALBINO PASTEL = PASTEL X ALBINO
    BANANA PASTEL/PASTEL CORAL GLOW = PASTEL X BANANA/CORAL GLOW
    BUMBLE BEE = PASTEL X SPIDER
    CARAMEL PASTEL = PASTEL X CARAMEL ALBINO
    PASTEL CLOWN = PASTEL X CLOWN
    PASTEL HYPO = PASTEL X HYPO
    PASTEL LESSER PLATINUM = PASTEL X LESSER PLATINUM
    PASTEL MOJAVE = PASTEL X MOJAVE
    PASTEL PIED = PASTEL X PIEBALD
    PASTEL PINSTRIPE/LEMON BLAST = PASTEL X PINSTRIPE
    PASTEL SPIDER = PASTEL X SPIDER
    PASTEL WOMA = PASTEL X WOMA
    PASTEL YELLOW BELLY = PASTEL X YELLOW BELLY/HET IVORY
    PEWTER = PASTEL X CINNAMON PASTEL OR BLACK PASTEL
    SUPER PASTEL = PASTEL X PASTEL
    SUPER PASTEL HYPO = SUPER PASTEL X HYPO
    WANNA BEE SPIDER = PASTEL X SPIDER X LESSER PLATINUM
    ZEBRA PASTEL = PASTEL X REDUCED PATTERN

    PHANTHOM / SUPER PHANTOM
    Co-dominant color and pattern mutation / Dominant color and pattern mutation
    BLUE-EYED LEUCISTICS = PHANTOM X LESSER PLATINUM
    PHANTOM YELLOW BELLY(GOBLIN) = PHANTOM X YELLOW BELLY
    PHANTOM PASTEL = PHANTOM X PASTEL
    SUPER PHANTOM = PHANTOM X PHANTOM
    SUPER PHANTOM GOBLIN = PHANTOM GOBLIN X PHANTOM GOBLIN

    PIEBALD MORPHS
    Recessive color and pattern mutation
    LAVENDER ALBINO PIED = LAVENDER ALBINO X PIEBALD
    PASTEL PIED = PASTEL JUNGLE X PIEBALD
    SPIDER PIED = SPIDER X PIEBALD

    PINSTRIPE MORPHS
    Dominant color and pattern mutation
    Chocolate pinstripe = pinstripe x chocolate
    Kingpin = pinstripe x lesser platinum
    Lemon blast = pinstripe x lemon pastel
    Pinstripe hypos = pinstripe x hypo
    Spinner ball = pinstripe x spider
    Spinner blast = pinstripe x spider x pastel

    HETEROZYGOUS RED AXANTHIC/RED AXANTHIC
    Co-dominant color and pattern mutation / Dominant color and pattern mutation.
    Pastel het red Axanthic = pastel x het red ananthic
    Red axanthix = het red Axanthic x het red axanthic

    RUSSO LINE MORPHS
    Referred to as High yellow lemon balls these are the Russo line of visible het blue-eyed leucistics. They have a high yellow color with a lot of lateral blushing and a clear white belly devoid of markings.
    *RUSSO LINE HET LEUCISTIC
    Co-dominant color mutation
    BLUE-EYED LEUCISTIC/WHITE DIAMOND = HET LEUCISTIC X HET LEUCISTIC

    *BLUE-EYED LEUCISTIC = HET LEUCISTIC X MOJAVE RUSSO LINE BLUE-EYED LEUCISTIC
    Dominant color mutation

    SABLE / SUPER SABLE MORPHS
    Co-dominant color mutation / Dominant color mutation
    The sable trait is the only recognized and known genetically inheritable hypermelanistic mutation. Sables are visible heterozygous Balls and the Super sable is the homozygous form of this trait.

    SPIDER MORPHS
    Dominant color and pattern
    ALBINO SPIDER = ALBINO X SPIDER
    BUMBLE BEE = SPIDER X PASTEL
    BUTTER BEE= SPIDER X BUTTERBALL
    CINNABEE = SPIDER X CINNAMON
    CORAL BEE = SPIDER X PASTEL X CORAL GLOW
    FADED ALBINO SPIDER = SPIDER X FADED ALBINO
    HONEY BEE = SPIDER X HYPO
    KILLER BEE = SPIDER X SUPER PASTEL
    LESSER SPIDER = SPIDER X LESSER PLATINUM
    PIED SPIDER = SPIDER X PIEBALD
    QUEEN BEE = SPIDER X PASTEL X LESSER PLATINUM
    SPIDER MOJAVE = SPIDER X MOJAVE
    SPIDER FIRE = SPIDER X FIREBALL
    SPIDER PIED = SPIDER X PIEBALD
    SPINNER WOMA = SPIDER X WOMA
    SPINNER BALL = SPIDER X PINSTRIPE
    WANNA BEE = SPIDER X PASTEL X WOMA
    YELLOW BELLY SPIDER = SPIDER X YELLOW BELLY

    SPOT NOSE / SUPER SPOT NOSE = POWER BALL
    Co-dominant pattern mutation / Dominant pattern mutation
    The Spot-nose has a jungle type pattern. The head is blushed and there is a large yellow spot on the rostral scales
    SUPER SPOT-NOSE = SPOT NOSE X SPOT NOSE

    THUNDER /VANILLA BALL
    Co-dominant color mutation
    Thunder Balls are the visible heterozygous forum of the lightening or Super Vanilla Ball

    LIGHTENING /SUPER VANILLA BALL
    Dominant color mutation
    The Lightening or Super Vanilla Ball is the homozygous form of the Thunder or Vanilla Ball.

    LIGHTENING/SUPER VANILLA = THUNDER/VANILLA X THUNDER VANILLA
    HYPO SUPER VANILLA = VANILLA X HYPO

    WOMA BALL MORPHS
    Dominant or co-dominant pattern mutation
    Womas have reduced patterns, faded head markings, yellow on their upper lips and clear bellies. The Super Woma is considered to be the Pearl Ball.
    PEARL = WOMA X WOMA
    WANNA BEE = WOMA X SPIDER X PASTEL
    WOMA LESSER = WOMA X LESSER PLATINUM
    WOMA PASTEL = WOMA X PASTEL
    WOMA SPIDER = WOMA X SPIDER

    YELLOW BELLY / HETEROZYGOUS IVORY / GOBLIN
    Co-dominant pattern mutation
    EBONY = YELLOW BELLY X GRANITE
    FIRE YELLOW BELLY = YELLOW BELLY X FIRE BALL
    IVORY = YELLOW BELLY X YELLOW BELLY
    MOJAVE YELLOW BELLY = YELLOW BELLY X MOJAVE
    PHANTOM YELLOW BELLY = YELLOW BELLY X PHANTOM
    SUPER STRIPE = YELLOW BELLY X ABERRANT STRIPE
    SUPER PHANTOM YELLOW BELLY = PHANTOM YELLOW BELLY X PHANTOM
    YELLOW BELLY
    YELLOW BELLY SPIDER = YELLOW BELLY X SPIDER
    YELLOW BELLY PASTEL = YELLOW BELLY X PASTEL
    YELLOW BELLY SUPER PASTEL = YELLOW BELLY X PASTEL X PASTEL
    *******************NOTE*************

    recessive morphs bred together will produce double hets that look Normal....

    If you breed the double hets together there is 1 in 16 chance of producing the double morph.
    bpherp.com - Breeder of ball python morphs & genetic mutations

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    Re: Can you list bp morphs and sub morphs?

    with 60+- base mutations, taking both homozygous and heterozygous morphs into account, there should be 120 factorial possible combinations.. right?

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    Re: Can you list bp morphs and sub morphs?

    By the way, black pastel is not a form of pastel. It's allelic with cinnamon, instead.

    Pastels, or "pastel jungles" come in a variety of subtle color variations such as lemon, blonde, etc.

    I know there are a ton of base morphs, but I don't know them all. It's fun to see how many I can remember, though...

    Pastel jungle (blonde, lemon)
    Black Pastel
    Cinnamon
    Mojave
    Lesser Platinum
    Russo
    Hypomelanistic (Ghost--orange, yellow, green)
    Albino
    Caramel Albino
    Lavender Albino
    Piebald
    Axanthic
    Banana/Whitesmoke
    Pinstripe
    Super Stripe
    Calico/Sugar
    Genetic Stripe
    Spider
    Woma
    Tiger
    Fire
    "Daddy" gene (an unexpressed gene unless paired with the right morphs--found in the original Platinum, carried by lessers and lesser sibs).
    "Hidden" gene (an unexpressed gene unless paired with the right morphs--found in soulsuckers, carried by womas).
    IMG (a gene that causes odd melanin variations over the course of a snake's life).

    Only 24! Clearly I fail. I remember seeing others, but I can't remember their names...
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