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    Re: Most doctile snakes? I think not.

    How would he get an RI when i have the top covered, and having a 110 with multiple hides is just a large scale 20 with one or two hides. The only reason i can see downgrading is because it'll be tough to heat in the winter. I might put him in the twenty for a while to see how he reacts, but changing environments is like the most stressful thing so idk how much ense that makes. idk, when i had my old snake in a ten gallon he would just sit in his hide all day, and at night he would just go back n forth, and see the same over n over, atleast now in the 110 the snake can pick from a variety of hides, climbs, heat levels, and generalized humidity.

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    Re: Most doctile snakes? I think not.

    Also noone commented on the tank divider preposition, or if im trying to rush the handling.

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    Re: Most doctile snakes? I think not.

    Theres so many factors and things that can give your snake an RI. Also, as long as your animal is eating, you could try handling him once or twice a week for 5 minutes or so each time. Alot of times a LITTLE handling goes a long way.

    I understand your mode of thinking. The thing is your not dealing with a mammal like said before. This is a REPTILE, and your choice of housing is likely the cause of the stress and aggression.

    I would seriously try to consider some of the people on this forum's advice. Some of us have more than 20 or 30 years of experience with these animals.

    I am CERTAINLY not trying to be mean, I don't think anyone else tries to be either.

    We are ALL just so passionate about these animals, we try to fix what we can when we can.

    We want your animal to be as healthy as possible, and for your interactions with it to be as enjoyable as possible, for you, and your animal.




    Quote Originally Posted by Faber View Post
    How would he get an RI when i have the top covered, and having a 110 with multiple hides is just a large scale 20 with one or two hides. The only reason i can see downgrading is because it'll be tough to heat in the winter. I might put him in the twenty for a while to see how he reacts, but changing environments is like the most stressful thing so idk how much ense that makes. idk, when i had my old snake in a ten gallon he would just sit in his hide all day, and at night he would just go back n forth, and see the same over n over, atleast now in the 110 the snake can pick from a variety of hides, climbs, heat levels, and generalized humidity.
    Last edited by 2kdime; 05-24-2009 at 02:50 PM.

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    Re: Most doctile snakes? I think not.

    You did take this animal in as a rescue, and a lot of people commend you for that.


    ...i got it from petco, so i recued it from a bad store?

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    Re: Most doctile snakes? I think not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Faber View Post
    How would he get an RI when i have the top covered, and having a 110 with multiple hides is just a large scale 20 with one or two hides. The only reason i can see downgrading is because it'll be tough to heat in the winter. I might put him in the twenty for a while to see how he reacts, but changing environments is like the most stressful thing so idk how much ense that makes. idk, when i had my old snake in a ten gallon he would just sit in his hide all day, and at night he would just go back n forth, and see the same over n over, atleast now in the 110 the snake can pick from a variety of hides, climbs, heat levels, and generalized humidity.
    A hiding snake is a happy snake. Cruising around and climbing on things is a sign of STRESS which is why your snake is aggressive.

    Changing environments is stressful but after a week, they should be settled in and will be happier in the long run.

    Your snake can get sick if the temps are too low (which I am sure they are in something so huge). Having the top covered doesn't help.

    If you are worried about spending too much money then maybe you have made a mistake. With any animal comes a responsibility to be able to provide for it. This means having extra money for food, vet bills and if needed, new equipment.

    I think dividing the tank might be a good option. You could try that. I wouldn't start handling regularly until the snake is eating on a steady schedule.
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    Re: Most doctile snakes? I think not.

    like i said ill consider it, but a 110 gallon isnt something you put under your arm to move around, and you wouldn't even suggest it as the snake grows? i just dont understand the difference between a small tank with 1-2 hides or a big tank with 5-6 hides.

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    Re: Most doctile snakes? I think not.

    i know that being overactive is a stress indicator, because as soon as you let them out of there shipping containers they take off, but the bottom part of that is what i needed, well not the part about making a bad choice, because i know i can handle it, its not spending money i care about, its wasting money. Also the temps are fine. like i said before its summer, i cant really mess up the temperatures if i tried.

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    Re: Most doctile snakes? I think not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Faber View Post
    like i said ill consider it, but a 110 gallon isnt something you put under your arm to move around, and you wouldn't even suggest it as the snake grows? i just dont understand the difference between a small tank with 1-2 hides or a big tank with 5-6 hides.
    The difference is they like small enclosed spaces. A 110g (even with multiple hides/vines/branches/leaves) isn't as small and enclosed as a 20-30g.

    Even full grown adults are kept in 30g enclosures.

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    Re: Most doctile snakes? I think not.

    My apologies on that comment, I got your thread confused with another thread that has been created recently. To add, no, the general census is that most chain pet stores don't take real good care of they're animals.

    My other info still applies in my reply.



    Quote Originally Posted by Faber View Post
    You did take this animal in as a rescue, and a lot of people commend you for that.


    ...i got it from petco, so i recued it from a bad store?
    Last edited by 2kdime; 05-24-2009 at 02:58 PM.

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    Re: Most doctile snakes? I think not.

    Quote Originally Posted by justind View Post
    I don't think that has to do with the amount of space. More likely it's because a ball python living in Africa has never seen a human and is certainly not handled everyday by one, that and they have to deal with parasites and predators.
    Exactly, so comparing your snake to one in africa is not a good comparison
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    Come here little guy. You're awfully cute and fluffy but unfortunately for you, you're made of meat

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