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Re: Most doctile snakes? I think not.
I would not worry about the hissing, that's just a bluff, a little sigh to let you know his/her discomfort. Some of them, like my little banded nightmare, seem to never want to grow out of being an evil psychotic little snake no matter how you try. It doesn't bother me at all but it does urk many people, ESPECIALLY those who have just a snake or two intended as pets to be interacted with and handled regularly. Trust me, when I got my first snake, my cali king, I was not happy about the fact that his first instinct, being the glutton he was, was to try and eat me with all of his might. 7 years later, he still has not completely outgrown the urge to occasionally swallow a finger, or wrap around my wrist and try to kill it. But he's sweet, and I love him anyway.
In order to be successful at "taming" your snake, its best if you look at it while separating yourself from your emotional attachment to it. What I mean by that is, sometimes people tend to forget that snakes don't have emotional feelings, they do not "enjoy" our company, and they don't love us, or each other for that matter. They couldn't care less about us, except for the fact that they know we provide the food. To them, we are nothing more than a big, scary, stomping creature that COULD make them the next meal. They don't like being petted, They don't cuddle, when you pet them they don't understand what petting is, to them it's just some really annoying rubbing or tapping by some large potential predator (you or me). Instead of focusing on getting your snake to "like" you, like you would a dog or a cat, you have to instead attempt to get him to tolerate you. That is what snakes do, they tolerate us. maybe even accept our presence, only after being conditioned to understand that we benefit them (by providing food) as opposed to their instinct, which is that we are a potential predator. That's why when baby snakes hatch, they are often incredibly defensive and shy but soon lose it after a few feedings. They no longer fear you. They are creatures of pure instinct that react to stimuli, and while it's fun to add anthropomorphic feelings when we talk about our snakes and even while we interact with them, to be successful at keeping and understanding them completely we have to separate ourselves from that for the benefit (and mental and physical health) of the snakes.
I hope my rambling made some bit of sense... it does to me, but sometimes I get carried away and people misinterpret my ideas
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Re: Most doctile snakes? I think not.
Well no i have a pretty sick cave from petsmart thats a great size, and i currently have two small uth, and a heating lamp, but since i have an upstairs bed room i sometimes unplus one of the heat pads, and shut off the lamp because i dont want it about 90, also i have the moss in there thats green under good humidity and brown under decent humidity, and ill spray that about 3 sprays 2-3 times a day to keep the temps moderate, i been keeping it about 80-85 though lately cause i think my snake likes it a little cooler because his cold side is about 80 and he still stays in the water dish, but i doubt its cause of mites, i think its just very hot for him.
His one hide on the hot side is similar to the smaller one in this picture http://www.petsmart.com/product/inde...ductId=2752667
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Re: Most doctile snakes? I think not.
I also wanted a 110 gallon cause i know he's gonna reach like 5 foot so i figred i should invest early
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Re: Most doctile snakes? I think not.
 Originally Posted by Faber
I also wanted a 110 gallon cause i know he's gonna reach like 5 foot so i figred i should invest early
110G seems a little excessive. You mentions you keep it in the 80's but then you said he stays in the water bowl all the time. You may want to check for mites again. Get a while water dish and let his soak like normal and check for little black specks in the bottom of the bowl after a day or two. 80's should be more then comfortable for them.
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Re: Most doctile snakes? I think not.
 Originally Posted by Faber
I also wanted a 110 gallon cause i know he's gonna reach like 5 foot so i figred i should invest early
Even full grown BPs don't need 110g. Read up on the caresheets on here.
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Re: Most doctile snakes? I think not.
Then idk what a BP would do with all that space in Africa.
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Re: Most doctile snakes? I think not.
Heh,
Find a rodent burrow or termite mound in it and hide in a small dark place. 
Seriously though, I know it sounds counter-intuitive but they really do tend to do better in smaller enclosures - or at least ones with loads of small, dark, cramped hiding places.
Every snake reacts differently but there are definately some that just feel exposed in larger enclosures.
dr del
Derek
7 adult Royals (2.5), 1.0 COS Pastel, 1.0 Enchi, 1.1 Lesser platty Royal python, 1.1 Black pastel Royal python, 0.1 Blue eyed leucistic ( Super lesser), 0.1 Piebald Royal python, 1.0 Sinaloan milk snake 1.0 crested gecko and 1 bad case of ETS. no wife, no surprise.
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Re: Most doctile snakes? I think not.
 Originally Posted by Faber
Then idk what a BP would do with all that space in Africa.
They hide out in termite mounds and rodent burrows about the size of tub that many of us use.
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Re: Most doctile snakes? I think not.
 Originally Posted by Faber
Then idk what a BP would do with all that space in Africa.
Well you have to think they hide in a burrow 90% of the time and only venture out when hungry or for breeding purposes. Well in a captive environment they no longer need this large expanse of space. I had a 65g for a while when I first started but my snake never left her hide except for water or food so I switched over to racks as my collection grew and space shrank lol. Its up to you but just add lots of different hides and ground cover and im sure you will be fine. also cover about 80%of the screen top with tape or a trash bag to help with humidity and lose the heat lamp just gonna dry out the tank faster. Hope this helps.
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Re: Most doctile snakes? I think not.
Yea when i brought him home i was going to put him in a ten or twenty long enclosure to save on bedding too but it would have been a pain in the ass bigger than a retec to move my tank and idk where i would even put it, maybe when i clean his cage again ill move him to a 20L, but his 110 has alot of dark hiding places, his favorite is widged between the half-log and the glass for some reason, i just attemped to life him again but he was wedged and i didn't wanna hurt him being so young.
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