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    Re: Here you are...

    Quote Originally Posted by JLC View Post
    Which question wasn't answered? The one about the giant snakes? That he only has a handful of? That he already said he had ordered larger housing for? Or the one about the housing for the monitor? Where he explained why he fed in a separate tub AND that he no longer even has the monitor to house, however correctly or incorrectly in everyone else's eyes?

    Whether or not you, personally, are happy with those answers, they were given.
    Now when another breeder would have given such answer, they would have probably been ripped apart for "lying" or covering up their story, correct?




    Quote Originally Posted by JLC
    It went here, didn't it? I'm taking the time to type out an answer for you. What, exactly, do you expect us to do? Turn over the running of the forum to you so that it runs the way you think it should?
    Or perhaps give better practice towards equal treatment. Would that not be definition of fair? "Equal"



    Quote Originally Posted by JLC
    Either you trust the staff to handle matters with integrity...or you do not. It's as simple as that. If you don't trust us, then there is absolutely nothing I can say to make you do so. All I can do (and all the entire staff can do) is to continue to run the site as best we can, with as much integrity and honesty as is humanly possible. I'm sorry if that's not good enough for you. There are lots of other communities to get involved in, and maybe some other staff at some other site will better fit YOUR personal idea of "fair."
    What guarantee can you give, other than integrity, to provide a "fair" and "equal" forum? What proof do you have, as has been claimed, that this is a fair, or "fairest" internet forum...




    Quote Originally Posted by JLC
    I'm quite sure you will NOT see my point of view here...but my point of view is the only one I have to offer. I did not see "bear baiting" in anything that rabernet said in response to you. Incredulity, maybe. But I did not see her trying to get a rise out of you and intentionally provoke you into an unreasonable outburst.
    Oh? Practically making fun of my statement. I do believe that would be bear baiting.

    Quote Originally Posted by JLC
    Should the entire site be run on YOUR definition of fairness? Should we justify all our actions based on YOUR thought processes? How can we do that? Not just for you, but for any individual? All we can do is gather together the most mature, level-headed people who are willing to donate their time and emotional energy to running this site. We work hard to make sure we hold ourselves accountable to very high standards of behavior, as well as rule creation and enforcement. We make mistakes...and when we do, we correct them as quickly as possible. In this one particular instance though, I do not see a mistake having been made.
    I had not seen that mistake "corrected". I am not the only individual who had seen that as poking a stick, bear baiting, or making fun. Perhaps you should go and look back on it.

    As for my fairness? Perhaps you should look at what fairness means, before claiming a fair site.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fairness
    air1  [fair] Show IPA adjective, -er, -est, adverb, -er, -est, noun, verb
    –adjective
    1. free from bias, dishonesty, or injustice: a fair decision; a fair judge.
    2. legitimately sought, pursued, done, given, etc.; proper under the rules: a fair fight.
    You preach fairness, yet I have seen other breeders, such as Wes Harris attacked for no reason other than your own justifications. You all were pretty severe on him...please do, tell.... how much do you know of the truth about what went on, other than claims on fauna, or second hand comments, such as the market crashing. How much of the truth did Wes state, when it was shunned, or looked down on and he was called a liar? This is just an example.


    Quote Originally Posted by JLC
    So fair and equal are only in your eyes, then? Our actions are the hours and hours spent each and every day by every single member of this staff to keep the site up and running as smoothly as possible. Will we occasionally have disagreements with members? Certainly. If you think it's possible to run a site like this, with THIS MANY people participating each and every day...to never have some sort of conflict or disagreement, I'd really, really like for you to share with me how that can be. What's your secret???
    Look at a few other forums, such as CU. Large amount of ACTIVE members. 2 moderators. Nothing such as this going on. Hmmm...obviously those forums are doing something right. Even when something such as a large disagreement goes down, nothing like this happens.

    Quote Originally Posted by JLC
    I could ask you the same thing, Andrew. Where is your proof that it is so awfully unfair? All this based on the simple fact that we don't agree with you on a topic or two?
    So you cannot answer my question? I've given more than one statement as to how it is not fair. Where is yours?

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