Here you are...

[JLC]

Since this topic of creating a new thread, when the problem could have been addressed in the current thread, was repeatedly brought up. I will do so now.


The question wasn't exactly answered. The thread just went back and forth.

Which question wasn't answered? The one about the giant snakes? That he only has a handful of? That he already said he had ordered larger housing for? Or the one about the housing for the monitor? Where he explained why he fed in a separate tub AND that he no longer even has the monitor to house, however correctly or incorrectly in everyone else's eyes?

Whether or not you, personally, are happy with those answers, they were given.

There is the problem. Addressing the problem with staff...because quite frankly, where does it lead? I don't see it going fairly far.

It went here, didn't it? I'm taking the time to type out an answer for you. What, exactly, do you expect us to do? Turn over the running of the forum to you so that it runs the way you think it should?

Another problem. Most of the "problems" brought up, if not all, are addressed to all staff, in the administrators/moderators forum, no? As such, how is it being properly handled when its a staff members word, against a simple members word. I see unfair and unequal treatment. A simple turn your back and look the other way.

Either you trust the staff to handle matters with integrity...or you do not. It's as simple as that. If you don't trust us, then there is absolutely nothing I can say to make you do so. All I can do (and all the entire staff can do) is to continue to run the site as best we can, with as much integrity and honesty as is humanly possible. I'm sorry if that's not good enough for you. There are lots of other communities to get involved in, and maybe some other staff at some other site will better fit YOUR personal idea of "fair."

Actually, most I've seen would rather nit pick, and irritate the member. What you all so famously call "bear baiting" I've seen it done. It just happened to me in the BHB thread. What comes of that? Infractions? I don't believe so. Is it removed? No, I don't believe so either. So where is the fairness or justification in this forum?

I'm quite sure you will NOT see my point of view here...but my point of view is the only one I have to offer. I did not see "bear baiting" in anything that rabernet said in response to you. Incredulity, maybe. But I did not see her trying to get a rise out of you and intentionally provoke you into an unreasonable outburst.

Should the entire site be run on YOUR definition of fairness? Should we justify all our actions based on YOUR thought processes? How can we do that? Not just for you, but for any individual? All we can do is gather together the most mature, level-headed people who are willing to donate their time and emotional energy to running this site. We work hard to make sure we hold ourselves accountable to very high standards of behavior, as well as rule creation and enforcement. We make mistakes...and when we do, we correct them as quickly as possible. In this one particular instance though, I do not see a mistake having been made.

This forum has claimed to be fairest. I've seen claims of equal treatment. Claims can be made all day long, yet where are the actions?

So fair and equal are only in your eyes, then? Our actions are the hours and hours spent each and every day by every single member of this staff to keep the site up and running as smoothly as possible. Will we occasionally have disagreements with members? Certainly. If you think it's possible to run a site like this, with THIS MANY people participating each and every day...to never have some sort of conflict or disagreement, I'd really, really like for you to share with me how that can be. What's your secret???

How many times has it been brought up that any breeder may be questioned no matter who they are? Yet, whenever one is questioned that seems to be friends with you, or your staff, the individual questioning or inquiring on their practices is attacked. That doesn't seem like equal treatment to me, nor a fair forum.

Did we allow people to question Brian? Of course we did. Did any single member suffer retaliation, infraction, or banning because of their participation in that thread. No. Is staff not allowed to agree or disagree as their own opinions warrant? How is the fact that the overall opinion of the staff goes one way means we don't allow a discussion to continue or happen at all?

The question at mind seems to be.... Where is the proof that your forum is very fair, or "fairest" as so claimed?

I could ask you the same thing, Andrew. Where is your proof that it is so awfully unfair? All this based on the simple fact that we don't agree with you on a topic or two?