Big snakes, small enclosures.

[dr del]

Hi,

I have to tell you Pat - I don't see bear baiting.

I see it. Any other member would have been nailed with infractions for it. Correct? They would have also been nailed with negative reps.

If you really feel that that crossed the line into bear baiting then I would suggest you PM one of the admin team and ask to have it looked at.

Since you are perfectly capable of leaving rep points I'm not sure what that has to do with it?

You say if it was any other breeder they would be slammed for any minor inconsistency - could you link me to any thread where that has happened on the site in the past?

I'll give you one simple name. Wes Harris. Wes did not crash the market. His partner did. His partner was posting his breeder animals for sale, yet your staff ripped him a part, as well as members. For what? His husbandry was correct. His animals were very healthy. The only thing anyone had on him was that his partner, not Wes, was crashing markets.

Do you honestly feel that what MKR did was a "minor inconsistency" ?

They also had accusations against the company for selling "morphs" as genetically proven when they were not even genetic, selling animals they did not actually have etc. You yourself had to get a refund becuse they sold you an animal they did not have.

Do you for one single second think that is a fair comparrison to this situation?

This site has always tried to avoid the spats against breeders or other websites wherever possible from what I have seen.

I've seen otherwise. I've been here around 4 years, and I've seen numerous breeders being attacked and persecuted, even when defending themselves, with both staff and members against them. Valid reasons for inquiring were brought up here, and elsewhere for a while, and yet go unanswered.

I have been here only four months less than your good self.

Of these numerous breeders being attacked why did you choose MKR as an example? They were hardly unfairly attacked.

If the staff know something underhand is going on they are not only allowed but actually duty-bound to speak up. Which innocent breeder was attacked by staff over a "minor inconsistency" and treated unfairly?

As for JP's answer vs. mine. European views on giant husbandry differs from Americans. It's tat simple. They're not cramping their animals in smaller enclosures than needed, yet still they do not give them ridiculous room sized enclosures. He may feel that the cage may be too small. That would be his decision. The cages are just right for the size. As for the monitors, it is different. Feeding cages are a good way for personal injury, or injury to the animal. Cages that small for monitors are in fact that....small....a little too small....

I do know that european views differ on quite a few topics about housing, heating and breeding etc. **points to the location field in his profile**

I think Brian said all he needed to.

And I really think you need to take Ed's advice and think about that last post and the accusations it contains.


dr del