i know a few breeders and i know one who is a total idot and hateful person. he only sees money and doesnt care about the snakes, they have mites and are aggressivly trained. he sees the larger snakes as the real money makers so he takes better care of them then the balls. he treats his balls like they are not even there. it makes me so angery. im going to call about his treatment. but i just hate when breeders see only money. and i also hate it when breeders look down on ball pythons.... i mean this guy was selling a first time snake owner a rock python.. graaaahh sorry i know this is kinda a rant but i had to get it out. i think hes going to try to sell the last of his snakes soon and i hope he does cuz ne thing other then that place is better.