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    Lesser bee X Silver Bullet

    Can anyone give me the breakdown of what the possibilities are for each egg when you put a Silver Bullet and a Lesser Bee??? Thanks
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    Re: Lesser bee X Silver Bullet

    Quote Originally Posted by aarondm View Post
    Can anyone give me the breakdown of what the possibilities are for each egg when you put a Silver Bullet and a Lesser Bee??? Thanks
    You would get an equal 1/8 chance of the following:

    Cinnamon queen bee (cinny pastel lesser spider)
    Cinnamon lesser bee
    Cinnamon bumble bee
    Pewter
    Cinnamon lesser pastel
    Lesser cinnamon
    Cinnabee (cinny spider)
    Cinnamon

    No matter what you get, it would be gorgeous.

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    Re: Lesser bee X Silver Bullet

    Quote Originally Posted by GenePirate View Post
    You would get an equal 1/8 chance of the following:

    Cinnamon queen bee (cinny pastel lesser spider)
    Cinnamon lesser bee
    Cinnamon bumble bee
    Pewter
    Cinnamon lesser pastel
    Lesser cinnamon
    Cinnabee (cinny spider)
    Cinnamon

    No matter what you get, it would be gorgeous.
    Wouldnt there be a Lesser Pastel(non cinny) in there somewhere? How about a regular queen bee?




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    Re: Lesser bee X Silver Bullet

    wouldn't you also be able to get lessers, spiders. pastels and normals in that pairing?
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    Re: Lesser bee X Silver Bullet

    Quote Originally Posted by Ladydragon View Post
    wouldn't you also be able to get lessers, spiders. pastels and normals in that pairing?
    i thought that a silver bullet was a super cinnamon pastel, correct? (or is it a super black pastel? i cant always remember the two different names for super+pastel).

    But if so, every offspring would have at least one cinnamon//black pastel gene, and therefor eliminate the possibility of normals occurring in the clutch.

    right? correct me if i'm wrong on this one.

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    Re: Lesser bee X Silver Bullet

    Theres sooo many different possibilities, I wish I knew how to break it down exactly. I might be getting a lesser bee on a trade soon so I was thinking I might have to try to find a Silver Bullet or a Sterling(which there dosent seem to be too many of them laying around) Is there anyone who can help me with the formula on breaking down the possible egg outcomes?? Thanks
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    Re: Lesser bee X Silver Bullet

    Quote Originally Posted by aarondm View Post
    Theres sooo many different possibilities, I wish I knew how to break it down exactly. I might be getting a lesser bee on a trade soon so I was thinking I might have to try to find a Silver Bullet or a Sterling(which there dosent seem to be too many of them laying around) Is there anyone who can help me with the formula on breaking down the possible egg outcomes?? Thanks
    Just an FYI

    Silver Bullet = super cinny/black pastel(i think BP is included in this) x pastel

    Sterling = Super pastel x cinny
    Dylan -- Reese Reptiles

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    Re: Lesser bee X Silver Bullet

    but everyone seems to be forgetting the lesserbee.. wouldn't that involve spider genes to get the bee portion? spider x pastel - = bumblebee spider x cinnamon = cinnabee spider x lesser = lesserbee. correct me if I'm wrong.
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    Re: Lesser bee X Silver Bullet

    Quote Originally Posted by Ladydragon View Post
    but everyone seems to be forgetting the lesserbee.. wouldn't that involve spider genes to get the bee portion? spider x pastel - = bumblebee spider x cinnamon = cinnabee spider x lesser = lesserbee. correct me if I'm wrong.
    But with a silver bullet, everything would be cinnamon. So at the very least you'd get a cinnabee when the spider gene got thrown in there
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    Re: Lesser bee X Silver Bullet

    From Graziani's page, regarding what a silver bullet is:
    http://king6.kingsnake.com/~graziani...ver_bullet.htm
    It is actually a Super Cinnamon Pastel Jungle (homozygous Cinnamon heterozygous Pastel).
    From NERD's page, regarding what a lesser bee is:
    http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...ll-python.html
    Genetics
    Dominant (Spider)
    Co-dominant (Lesser Platinum)
    So that should clarify what the genetics of the parents are, except the question of whether the silver bullet is cinnamon, black pastel, or one of each.

    As far as the breakdown, I agree with GenePirate, except again there is the question of whether the silver bullet may be black pastel instead of cinnamon. If it is a silver bullet made from black pastels, then you'd just substitute black pastel instead of cinnamon. If the silver bullet carries one of each of black pastel & cinnamon, then you would get a 1/16 chance of each of the following plus the black pastel equivalents.
    Quote Originally Posted by GenePirate View Post
    You would get an equal 1/8 chance of the following:

    Cinnamon queen bee (cinny pastel lesser spider)
    Cinnamon lesser bee
    Cinnamon bumble bee
    Pewter
    Cinnamon lesser pastel
    Lesser cinnamon
    Cinnabee (cinny spider)
    Cinnamon

    No matter what you get, it would be gorgeous.
    Casey

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