HR669 is toast!!!!! Just got the email:)

[blackcrystal22]

If you attempt to pass the most strict and wide ranged bill possible first, then the more and more you water it down, the more likely it will pass.

They knew it wouldn't pass, but I'm going to guess they tried to use such an 'outstanding' bill that would cause issues to so many so that they can eventually narrow it down to have a better chance at passing.

Edit: I just said the same thing twice.. I'm going to bed.

[kc261]

I already said something about this in another thread, but I'll repeat it here.

I have very mixed emotions about what happened today. It is obvious that HR 669 as it was written is dead, and I am glad.

BUT, there is a double edged sword to that. What they will do is add in a much longer list of exempt animals, maybe tweak a few other things to make other groups happier, and then it will come back. I don't know the process well enough to know if it will still be called HR 669 or not, but that really doesn't matter.

What will happen is that animals such as ferrets, guinea pigs, and tilapia fish will all be protected just the same as cats & dogs were in the original one. Or maybe they'll have exemptions for people raising animals for food. Whatever the details are, next time around, there won't be some guy from some big fish company arguing our side. Next time, the ferret guy I saw won't be there.

Next time, the reptile industry may be standing all alone. That will make it much harder to fight. Even if we manage to send just as many letters, emails, and make just as many phone calls, the reps won't listen as much as they did when they understood that they had offended the entire pet industry.

Yes, celebrate for what happened today. But be aware that by not managing to kill it DEAD with a single blow, we may have actually made a much harder fight for ourselves.

[mainbutter]

Well if they fix all the issues with the bill(banning anything except pet zebra mussels and asian carp an kudzu) I'd be fine with it.

[waltah!]

If you attempt to pass the most strict and wide ranged bill possible first, then the more and more you water it down, the more likely it will pass.

They knew it wouldn't pass, but I'm going to guess they tried to use such an 'outstanding' bill that would cause issues to so many so that they can eventually narrow it down to have a better chance at passing.

Edit: I just said the same thing twice.. I'm going to bed.

I did a double take when I read that....lol.

[OhBalls]

*does the happy dance*

[Freakie_frog]

Isn't there supposed to be scantily clad but perfectly respectable beer wenches distributing natures ambrosia to the celebrating masses right now.

Why am I always in the right place at the wrong time?

There are at my house!

[waltah!]

There are at my house!

It's gotta be the car! LOL

[Freakie_frog]

It's gotta be the car! LOL

There's a lot of things a woman would consider doing in a car like that.

My wife was just as involved with this she knew if I had to stop breeding snakes I'd be back to buying $400.00 fountain pens and things like Yamaha ZR1's which I'm still getting I don't care what she says.

[mainbutter]

There's a lot of things a woman would consider doing in a car like that.

My wife was just as involved with this she knew if I had to stop breeding snakes I'd be back to buying $400.00 fountain pens and things like Yamaha ZR1's which I'm still getting I don't care what she says.

lol.. be careful on those things

I have to carefully balance my two hobbies of fishing and pets. They can BOTH sink the bank account.

I'm resisting getting into musky fishing as much as I can. Dear god if I end up making friends with a musky fisherman with boat I don't know what's going to happen. $600 rod/reel setups, $30 bucks a lure..

I know musky fishermen with over 400 lures.

[waltah!]

There's a lot of things a woman would consider doing in a car like that.

My wife was just as involved with this she knew if I had to stop breeding snakes I'd be back to buying $400.00 fountain pens and things like Yamaha ZR1's which I'm still getting I don't care what she says.

Hey, who doesn't love a nice pen?! lol