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Re: Bel
 Originally Posted by Fallguy
i dont wish to take from the topic of this thread so im bringing it to the debate forum.
sorry to the thread author for de-railing it
Im cooler than the other side of your pillow.
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Re: Bel
i guess there isn't one here, thats beat
Im cooler than the other side of your pillow.
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Re: Bel
 Originally Posted by dr del
Hi,
The chances of a hatching a leucistic from breeding a lesser and a mojave is actually 25% per egg with the remaining 75% split equally between mojaves, lessers and wild type.
dr del
the percentage goes by gene number. i was always wondering and maybe you can help me. how many genes do ball pythons have?
Im cooler than the other side of your pillow.
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Re: Bel
Hi,
I'm not sure I am following what you mean. 
We are discussing crossing two morph genes that seem to exist on the same location.
So in the simplest way of expressing it there are two halves of one gene involved and each half can be in one of three "states" - wild type, lesser and mojave.
To make the bel both halves of the gene have to be either lesser or mojave.
It is not possible, however, for the two halves of the gene to both be the same ( i.e. either lesser/ lesser or mojave/ mojave ) given the parentage.
If you are asking however how many genes are contained in the full DNA of the animal I have no clue I'm afraid.
dr del
Derek
7 adult Royals (2.5), 1.0 COS Pastel, 1.0 Enchi, 1.1 Lesser platty Royal python, 1.1 Black pastel Royal python, 0.1 Blue eyed leucistic ( Super lesser), 0.1 Piebald Royal python, 1.0 Sinaloan milk snake 1.0 crested gecko and 1 bad case of ETS. no wife, no surprise.
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Re: Bel
 Originally Posted by dr del
Hi,
I'm not sure I am following what you mean.
We are discussing crossing two morph genes that seem to exist on the same location.
So in the simplest way of expressing it there are two halves of one gene involved and each half can be in one of three "states" - wild type, lesser and mojave.
To make the bel both halves of the gene have to be either lesser or mojave.
It is not possible, however, for the two halves of the gene to both be the same ( i.e. either lesser/ lesser or mojave/ mojave ) given the parentage.
If you are asking however how many genes are contained in the full DNA of the animal I have no clue I'm afraid.
dr del
I dont know, and really dont care what the other guy is talking about. I'm just trying to figure out how to make a flawless very clean blue eyed lucy
1.2 normal 0.1 pinstripe
1.1 spider 1.0 butter
2.0 pastel
0.1 mojave
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Re: Bel
 Originally Posted by rocky88
I dont know, and really dont care what the other guy is talking about. I'm just trying to figure out how to make a flawless very clean blue eyed lucy
Very kind words 
The Cleanest Lucy is bred through anything aside mojo as far as I know. However unless you are looking into getting one in about 3-4 years it would probably be cheaper just to purchase a clean BEL
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Re: Bel
 Originally Posted by eulenspiegel
Very kind words
The Cleanest Lucy is bred through anything aside mojo as far as I know. However unless you are looking into getting one in about 3-4 years it would probably be cheaper just to purchase a clean BEL 
I dont have that kind of money for a clean bell. So that was my plan to be able to produce one in about 3-4 years
1.2 normal 0.1 pinstripe
1.1 spider 1.0 butter
2.0 pastel
0.1 mojave
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Re: Bel
Hmm but don't you think housing 2 Lesser Platinum and feeding them for 4 years will amount to the same price as just buying a BEL now?
You need to add in food, electricity, substrate, vet and tank setup.
2 Lesser Plats cost around 1000-1500 bucks together
That is almost half the cost of a BEL
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What about value?
Do bels that have more than 1 morph (lesser x mojave vs. lesser x lesser) have a higher value due to having more variety?
Or is that a personal preference like cleanliness?
Personally I would rather buy a bel that I could get the most combos out of...
"I don't want to make money, I just want to be wonderful." ~Marilyn Monroe
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Re: Bel
 Originally Posted by eulenspiegel
Hmm but don't you think housing 2 Lesser Platinum and feeding them for 4 years will amount to the same price as just buying a BEL now?
You need to add in food, electricity, substrate, vet and tank setup.
2 Lesser Plats cost around 1000-1500 bucks together
That is almost half the cost of a BEL
I could do that but the electricity isnt a problem because I work at the local gas and electric co. and get 50% off. The food isnt a problem because I recently ran into a nice older lady that owns a reptile rescue and she stops by her regular feed place and pics up about 1000 mice/ratts at a time and she gave me the same price she gets which is 20 cents a pop for large mice/med rats. And well the vet is the same as it is with every snake. And if I could make payments for that long I would buy a new car. But 350 now then 350 in a month is more than doable. I put my first payment friday and she will be in the mail on may-24th
1.2 normal 0.1 pinstripe
1.1 spider 1.0 butter
2.0 pastel
0.1 mojave
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