Well welcome to the forums.
Luke I'm sorry this joyful experience has turned into such a debate, your puppies are beautifulI hope they & mommy are doing well.
As far as the debators go.....well I'll just say this, With this breed of dog, it is not the type you want to get from a shelter without knowing the lineage or history of the dog.
In the past I have adopted a couple pits from shelters, and they had issues (like some shelter adoptees can). I had one that did not like black people, why I don't know, but she would start foaming at the mouth trying to tear thru the chain link fencing. So I had to take special care with her.
If I were to get another pit, it would be from a reputable breeder and not from a shelter.
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