Puppies!!!

[Repfanaticlady28]

you don't know Luke, and you don't know the situation...

Don't need to. It doesn't matter if it was accidental or planned. It was irresponsible either way, so my previous post still stands. Unfortunately, there's nothing I can do about it. I will still state my opinion whether people like it or not.

There is a time and a place for debate, and this isn't one of them.

Who said anything about a debate? I'm just stating my opinion and I'm pretty sure that's what forums are for.

You have a unique way of bringing people over to your way of thinking.

JohnNJ: I'm not trying to bring people over to my way of thinking. It's pointless. Sad but true.

For some people, shelter dogs are great, but not everybody want's a shelter dog and all the problems that can come with them.

As far as I'm concerned those people shouldn't own dogs. Purebred dogs have behavioral and health problems also. Yes, that is my opinion and yes, it's pointless to argue.

I didn't post to start an argument regardless of what anybody thinks. I am allowed to state my opinion just like everybody else......like it or not.

[MarkS]

I didn't post to start an argument regardless of what anybody thinks. I am allowed to state my opinion just like everybody else......like it or not.

Maybe so, but you can be a little nicer about it. Saying he's a killer of shelter dogs when all he is doing is posting pics of the new pups that he's very proud of is just too extreme. And that's MY opinion.....Like it or not.

[LadyOhh]

You see, here is my OPINION on it.

You didn't state your opinion.

You went above and beyond opinion to be harsh, rude and in your face about your feelings about the situation.

You are absolutely entitled to your opinion.

And we are absolutely entitled to show you that you are becoming borderline fanatic PETA about a situation you know nothing about.

And for the record, I agree that PitBulls are overwhelmingly in the pounds, and that they are killed unnecessarily.

As I said before, there is a time and a place, and if you wanted to share your opinion, you could have said:

"Those are very cute, Luke. I hope that they will all find good forever homes, as there are plenty of Pits in shelters that have been given up and unfortunately euthanized because people don't understand the breed."

You see how that is different from what you posted?

There you go.

[Luke Martin]

I appreciate your opinion and I understand your views. I've rescued dogs from shelters and love my dogs unconditionally (actually got suspended from work because my boss said she was ok by herself but I stayed home) but if these weren't pure bred and just mutts or pits without papers I wouldn't have bred them. I also believe that purebreds should be bred as well. I can't help that somebody's mutt made it into someones back yard and bred with their dog so now no one wants them. There are many irresponsible owners of pits and dogs in general and yes shelters are full of unwanted animals and I appreciate your help in the shelters and adopting out dogs and spaying and neutering so many. I am a responsible owner and screen any customers that I sell to to make sure that these puppies are going to loving responsible owners. As stated shelter dogs do have a lot of problems and many don't want to bother with them...I know its bad but its how things work. If the people wanting to buy my dogs wanted a shelter dog I believe they'd already have gotten one don't you think? Saying that I'm irresponsible and killing other dogs because I brought these dogs into the world is (for a lack of a better term) stupid.

For everyone else....thanks for looking and I appreciate the comments

[OhBalls]

While I understand your ire on the subject, you don't know Luke, and you don't know the situation...

You are assuming too much to be jumping on his back about this...

There is a time and a place for debate, and this isn't one of them.

I ABSOLUTELY agree with you!
That post is completely out of line

[catawhat75]

I understand what Repfanaticlady28 is saying. While she may not have put it in the best terms, I totally understand the passion behind it. I can also say I am more insulted by the "just mutts" comments. I have mutts and they are no better or no worse than purebred dogs. And shelters are full of the much "coveted" purebreds. Oh, and shelter dogs don't have more issues just because they are shelter dogs. If they have issues (mine didn't and many don't) it is due to irresponsible PEOPLE, not the dogs.

Personally I don't think anyone should be breeding unless they are showing or bettering the breed. I have pulled way to many dogs, transported too many dogs and watched too many dogs die- mutt and purebred.

That said, please at least have those who buy your dogs sign a spay/neuter contract as well as be willing to take them back if they don't work out in their new homes.
They are cute.

[Luke Martin]

I'm not saying that mutts are bad or that purebreds are better than them. I'm saying that many people are superficial and want to buy purebreds...as much as you want to preach its just the way people are. I understand your compassion and sympathize with any dogs that have been treated unfairly and are in shelters but that doesn't mean that my breeding my dogs is a bad thing. I'm no breeder by any means this is my first litter ever and don't plan on many more. What I don't condone is puppy mills and/or people breeding the crap out of dogs just to make as much money as possible. Hmmmm....sounds a lot like another business I'm very familiar with. Like I said before I screen all buyers and know that my dogs are going to a good home where they will not end up in a shelter. I even do the same when selling big snakes....are you going to tell me its wrong to breed big snakes because of a few dumbasses have let them go in the wild too?

[Luke Martin]

And yes heather....we are now having this discussion lol

[catawhat75]

We don't have the vast amount of snakes in shelters the way we do dogs and cats. It is your right to breed, if it makes you happy do it. I just will never agree with what you are doing.

I am not attacking you or what you have or will do. All said in my previous post was I understand where she was coming from. As for the mutt comment, very used to it by lots of uneducated people (no, I am not saying you are just in case you thought that) who then turn around and ask me to help them find a peek-a-poo or some other designer dog- AKA mutt!

It is like what we are dealing with right now, the people who don't have snakes don't understand our passion. Unless you have done true rescue, you don't get it.

[Luke Martin]

But what you don't get is that I HAVE done "true" rescue and DO get it....why does that mean I have to agree with your views that dogs shouldn't be bred? Maybe my rescue work wasn't as good as yours right? lol

Plus we don't have snake shelters....