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    Re: Curious has a Albino Bumblebee been created

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    My opinion and just think say you took any of the bees out there like Cinnabee, Honeybee, Killerbee or Lesserbee and put it into the Albino famaily i think it would create something so crazy and cool!

    I think you are confused how the bee genetics work. Bees are just a spider pattern with the added color morph of something else. When you add the albino gene in there it will do the same thing every time with just a slight difference in the shade of color depending on the color morph its going against. A Cinnabee, Lesserbee, Honeybee, Bumblebee or Killerbee will all come out looking like this picture, but with a slight difference in the shade of color. plain and simple. Nothing crazy other than what a typical albino spider would look like. thats why it hasnt been done... err its already been done if you look at it from the other side. Its just not worth the effort.

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    Re: Curious has a Albino Bumblebee been created

    what if something completely weird came out ya never know
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    Re: Curious has a Albino Bumblebee been created

    Thats what im thinking what would be cool to see is a paradox come out of it

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    Re: Curious has a Albino Bumblebee been created

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    what if something completely weird came out ya never know

    On just about every other trait id agree with you that you never know, but the gene for albinism is very predictable wether it be (t+) or (t-)

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    Re: Curious has a Albino Bumblebee been created

    Quote Originally Posted by evil mechanic View Post
    On just about every other trait id agree with you that you never know, but the gene for albinism is very predictable wether it be (t+) or (t-)
    i agree but eitheir way i want to be sure so trying once never hurts
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    Re: Curious has a Albino Bumblebee been created

    Quote Originally Posted by jere000 View Post
    i agree but eitheir way i want to be sure so trying once never hurts
    Word... btw love your sig. totally agree.

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    Re: Curious has a Albino Bumblebee been created

    I have a male bee that's possible het for albino, and am planning to try to prove it out next year, which has a very long shot of producing an albino bumble bee.

    Quote Originally Posted by evil mechanic View Post
    I think you are confused how the bee genetics work. Bees are just a spider pattern with the added color morph of something else. When you add the albino gene in there it will do the same thing every time with just a slight difference in the shade of color depending on the color morph its going against. A Cinnabee, Lesserbee, Honeybee, Bumblebee or Killerbee will all come out looking like this picture, but with a slight difference in the shade of color. plain and simple. Nothing crazy other than what a typical albino spider would look like. thats why it hasnt been done... err its already been done if you look at it from the other side. Its just not worth the effort.
    That's not true. Cinnamons, lessers, mojaves, butters, black pastels and probably a few others drastically change the spider pattern, so adding any of these to an albino spider will change the color and the pattern. Some of them will look significantly different than an albino spider. Even the subtle albino bee combos are worth the work for the power house breeders that can be produced.
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    Re: Curious has a Albino Bumblebee been created

    Quote Originally Posted by PythonWallace View Post
    I have a male bee that's possible het for albino, and am planning to try to prove it out next year, which has a very long shot of producing an albino bumble bee.



    That's not true. Cinnamons, lessers, mojaves, butters, black pastels and probably a few others drastically change the spider pattern, so adding any of these to an albino spider will change the color and the pattern. Some of them will look significantly different than an albino spider. Even the subtle albino bee combos are worth the work for the power house breeders that can be produced.

    The combos that he is speaking of (lesser, cinny, bumble, killer, honey) are not drastically different from a normal spider other than color. put them all together in the same tub and take a picture in black and white and i bet you wont be able to pick out which is which, (unless they are your own animals ofcourse). the differences between their pattern is so small. now the other combos using a spider like the mojave spider, spinner, motley, pewter ect would be a nice project. no doubt tho that nomatter which he chooses to make it will be a powerhouse. it just didnt seem like he was doing it for the powerhouse effect of it, but more of hopes of creating something that looked drastically different from what anyone else has done. by all means make one of each and prove me wrong, but i think if your doing it for the visual wow factor, then you will be disappointed.

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    Re: Curious has a Albino Bumblebee been created

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    Word... btw love your sig. totally agree.
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    Re: Curious has a Albino Bumblebee been created

    Quote Originally Posted by evil mechanic View Post
    The combos that he is speaking of (lesser, cinny, bumble, killer, honey) are not drastically different from a normal spider other than color. put them all together in the same tub and take a picture in black and white and i bet you wont be able to pick out which is which, (unless they are your own animals ofcourse). the differences between their pattern is so small. now the other combos using a spider like the mojave spider, spinner, motley, pewter ect would be a nice project. no doubt tho that nomatter which he chooses to make it will be a powerhouse. it just didnt seem like he was doing it for the powerhouse effect of it, but more of hopes of creating something that looked drastically different from what anyone else has done. by all means make one of each and prove me wrong, but i think if your doing it for the visual wow factor, then you will be disappointed.
    You don't think albino cinnabees, albino lesser bees and albino butter bees will look drastically different than an albino spider? They all have completely unique patterns. I think any albino with a different pattern, like the cinnamon albino, have a huge wow factor visually.

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