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    Re: I need help :(

    Quote Originally Posted by Skiploder View Post
    100% wrong - you can have various biopsies done on a live snake - liver, esophageal tonsils, kidneys, gall bladder, etc.

    I've had them done on animals in my collection.

    They are not 100% reliable only because the biopsied organ needs to have identifiable inclusion cells in it to make a diagnosis.

    Absence of inclusion cells does not necessarily mean the animal is disease free - it just means that the organ biopsied is free of inclusion cells. They are also not cheap.

    To say that there are no reliable tests on living animals to screen or check for IBD is blatantly false.

    http://www.reptilechannel.com/reptil...y-disease.aspx

    http://www.boa-constrictors.com/com/Haltung/IBDEng.htm
    notice how i agreed that there was no RELIABLE test for IBD. Ad if we were gauging probability of a successful test for IBD it would be the necropsy always as every organ could be examined in full. an my statement was directed to wards a better answer. and there is no way to get a definitive one with out a necropsy and even then it has been said that they are guesses at best.

    biopsies are not reliable. and neither is a necropsy.

    she is 100% correct i see no fault in her statement. there is no reliable test live and dead for that matter for IBD. it also takes a vet that knows what they are doing. which some times is harder to find then one would think in the herp world.

    we were not protesting the ability of a test. just the reliability. i get the impression you like to argue much


    re⋅li⋅a⋅ble
       /rɪˈlaɪəbəl/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [ri-lahy-uh-buhl] Show IPA
    –adjective
    that may be relied on; dependable in achievement, accuracy, honesty, etc.: reliable information.

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/reliable

    my Motorcycle is reliable, it starts every time. a test that may or may not yield results is not, that would be called gambling. you contradicted your self in your statement
    in order for that test to be reliable at all it would have to achieve results constantly to deem its reliability. a car that only starts 1 out of every 5 times would be considered unreliable. therefore there are no tests that can be done live that can be reliable to find IBD. its a crap shoot. and so is a necropsy.
    Last edited by JeffJ; 03-24-2009 at 05:21 PM. Reason: explained myself better
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