Everyone read-Hybrid Talk

[qiksilver]

Some of you need some thicker skin. This is only the internet after all.

I was part of a hybrid discussion and don't remember anyone getting flamed. And Lucas, if you were on any other site, the admin and mods would give you a serious talking to for trying to recruit to another site just for the sake of recruiting. So don't take the victim stance.

Any discussion has a place on this site, just be ready for a discussion. Don't expect everyone to blow smoke up your... whatever... just to make you feel better about yourself.

People are allowed to disagree, it's usually the disagreement that teaches best.

[littleindiangirl]

Some of you need some thicker skin. This is only the internet after all.

I was part of a hybrid discussion and don't remember anyone getting flamed. And Lucas, if you were on any other site, the admin and mods would give you a serious talking to for trying to recruit to another site just for the sake of recruiting. So don't take the victim stance.

Any discussion has a place on this site, just be ready for a discussion. Don't expect everyone to blow smoke up your... whatever... just to make you feel better about yourself.

People are allowed to disagree, it's usually the disagreement that teaches best.

[Lucas339]

this thread got out of hand and im over it.

[littleindiangirl]

this thread got out of hand and im over it.

Again with that mentality. "They dont agree with me! I don't wanna play anymore."

Good luck with a self centered world that revolves around you, where there is no such thing as a "discussion".

[qiksilver]

this thread got out of hand and im over it.

if this is out of hand you may need to reconsider your forum usage. In my experience this is one of the nicest large forums I've seen. I've had my share of frustrations with the site, as well as with individual members. But the staff here functions very well and run an impressively 'tight ship'.

Also, the knowledge here is much better than a lot of places. I checked out your hybridhaven, and was seriously not impressed. But hey, to each their own.

[Lucas339]

the point of this thread was this and ONLY this:
many, many people (probably the majority) dislike hybrids. Many of those that dislike them have a border line hate for them. i was just SUGGESTING that people who want to talk hybrids do it out of they eye of those who hate them. i can understand why those who hate them do so and agree to a point with some of them.

to me a proper discussion isn't "what a waste of animals, why do you do that, and thats irrespossible". but those are opinions and are fine.

the point of this tread was NOT to recruit people to another forum. however in retrospect it did come off as that but was NEVER my intention. i appoligize if you thought this.

Mike,
i fully agree with you. this is my go to site. i check it daily and during the week i check it mulitple times a day. many on here offer helpful advice. you and some others gave me alot of advice on the care of my new boas. there are other sites that don't offer this kind of help.

and please don't refer to it as MY website. i visit it maybe once a week.

Again with that mentality. "They dont agree with me! I don't wanna play anymore."

Good luck with a self centered world that revolves around you, where there is no such thing as a "discussion".

if you knew me at all, which you don't, you'd know that i can and will argue anything. i can roll with the punches, i have tough skin, i can handle it. i find that many people are high and mighty when and only when they are behind the keyboard.

this thread isn't a discussion by any means. its people getting offended by a simple opinion/suggestion that i offered and thus coming down on me. but whatever! i said all i have to say on this.........................

[Skiploder]

1. i never told anyone what to do, i only made a suggestion.

Lucas - why even bother? After reading your initial post on this thread I looked up some of the hybrid threads and can't see what the big deal is. Who cares if someone shares your views on hybrids?

You already knew that people are somewhat polarized on this subject - so why even bother to bring it up again? You should know by now that you can't keep people from voicing their opinions (valid or not). So why revisit a topic that obviously got under your skin?

2. I have no problems with threads that strain on for endless pages but i do have a problem with people asking a question and never getting the answer due to other people bashing them for wanting to know more about something.

Welcome to the internet and forums in general. Again - I'd echo the sentiments of other people and suggest not getting irked by something so trivial.

3. if you thought this post was there was something wrong with what i posted then i guess im missing the point of stating an opinion. my opinion is simply if you want a strait answer then there are other places to ask them (not saying where)

People who are interested can find other forums to discuss hybrids on their own - they found this place, didn't they?

As Mike said, you can always state your opinion - you just can't reasonably request that other people refrain from doing the same.

4. i started a another thread with a poll attached to see how much interest there is on here for a hybrid section. based i this, the mods can determine weither or not to start the new section. please, vote how you feel. if you are just going to go onto the hybrid section just to post comments on how you disapprove hybridization of animals then i ask you just to vote no.

If the mods were to create another section on hybrids, you can probably expect the debates and "bashing" to continue there. Again - why bother?

If any of the above post offends you in any way, calm down! its just the internet

That's a good bit of advice. Seriously, apply it to those who want to debate the ethics of hybrids. You already know that many people will post things they would never have the guts to say when they can do it from the safety of a keyboard.

If you ran into those same people in person, you would probably find the tone of the conversation to be quite different - but again who cares? I could give a rip either way about hybrids. I see the arguments of people who are against them - but I can apply that same logic to the lack of self control in this hobby in general.

Giants, hybrids, hots - it's all going to be a go until our excesses catch up with us and the government hits us with their own draconian style of self control.

[Stewart_Reptiles]

So it would be a very interesting board if we all posted..."I do this" and 500 people posted "OMG I do that too!"?????

The Stepford BP.netters

BTW we are getting dangerously close to 6 pages here

[frankykeno]

the point of this thread was this and ONLY this:
many, many people (probably the majority) dislike hybrids. Many of those that dislike them have a border line hate for them. i was just SUGGESTING that people who want to talk hybrids do it out of they eye of those who hate them. i can understand why those who hate them do so and agree to a point with some of them.

Lucas any forum, whether that might be for hybrids or rat breeding or whatever, is not "out of the eye" of any member here. Our forums are fully open for discussion (other than QT which requires you contact Admin for entrance). Quite honestly whether a thread is about hybrids in a ball python general forum or in a hybrid specific forum, it's going to get commented on by any member that feels the need to type. Their opinion yay or nay will be just as valid as anyone else's and the only moderation that would be done is by our TOS as it is in any forum here.

Specific forums are created here because of membership interest, NOT as an attempt to encourage a cliche or a particular point of view.

[hoax]

Personally, I don't believe in hybrids, but I would totally support having a hybrid forum on this site so people who have a different view from mine could discuss their interests.

I would love a hybrid forum...

I would actually love to see a hybrid forum here. I don't breed them or keep them, but I find them pretty fascinating.

I wouldn't mind seeing a Hybrid forum on BP.net. After all, there is a Venomous Forum. I'm sure there is as many people with Hybrids on this forum as there is Venomous.

if you are just going to go onto the hybrid section just to post comments on how you disapprove hybridization of animals then i ask you just to vote no.

I would say that if you feel strongly against it vote yes so that your opinion has a specific place to be heard.

this thread got out of hand and im over it.

I have a teenage sister who says the same thing when she gets upset...

All in all I would love to see a Hybrid forum on here. I have been thinking alot about doing a hybrid project and some of the things I have seen on here give me something to think about. I would really like a section where the ones who support or are against this can give their view point. I would also like a place to talk about the genetics of hybridizing. I think that a hybrid forum is a great idea.

Mike