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    Good Trade???

    OK I got an email today on my ASF's. I replied to the email telling the gentleman what I have and left him my phone number. I did not think that I would ever hear from him due to the fact that he lives 8 hours from myself.

    He called me this afternoon and we got to talking about the ASF's care for them... blah blah blah general stuff that people ask.

    Any who I told him I was interested in getting some more BP's he stated he had a few large female normals that may be gravid that he might be willing to trade...

    I am not sure of what he has introduced to the females but he did state that he had seen locks. He did breed them to morphs. He mentioned a mojave and some others but I do not know.

    So I will possibly be trading about 60 ASF's for 2 or 3 poss gravid females.

    So not to the questions... What do I need to look for when looking at these girls? How can I tell if they are gravid? I am just unsure because I am still fairly new to the hobby and I do not want to get into this with out knowing what to look for.

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    Re: Good Trade???

    Are you %100 positive you can care for gravid females, eggs and hatchlings?

    I don't want to discourage you too much but I don't think I would take a gravid female at this point myself, being pretty new to the hobby as well.

    Though it does sound like a great trade to me!

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    Re: Good Trade???

    Mike,
    I would make that trade in a minute. 3 breeding size girls for 60 ASF! You can make 60 more ASF by next week!
    Gravid or not, I'd do the deal...Just QT the hell out of the new snakes.... and if they are gravid, sell the babies and make enough to cover your ASF food bill....

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    Re: Good Trade???

    Quote Originally Posted by dizzy View Post
    Are you %100 positive you can care for gravid females, eggs and hatchlings?

    I don't want to discourage you too much but I don't think I would take a gravid female at this point myself, being pretty new to the hobby as well.

    Though it does sound like a great trade to me!
    I am going to be speaking with a few good breeding friends of mine and see what they think about that. I do know that the care can difficult but nothing that I don't think I can candle.

    This might sound arrogant and I do not mean it that way but, a little money and a little education can go along way.

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    Re: Good Trade???

    Charlie nailed it. As long as you get healthy females, 60 ASFs is a small price to pay if you're breeding them. If you get lucky and they are gravid with any kind of morphs, that would just be jackpot gravy.
    What are these mojavas I keep hearing so much about?

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    Re: Good Trade???

    Quote Originally Posted by hoax View Post
    I am going to be speaking with a few good breeding friends of mine and see what they think about that. I do know that the care can difficult but nothing that I don't think I can candle.

    This might sound arrogant and I do not mean it that way but, a little money and a little education can go along way.

    Mike
    I absolutely agree. I can't believe how much knowledge I gain on a daily basis by reading about my pets. I just haven't read all that much yet on breeding, as I have a couple years before most of mine reach that age.

    If you're commited I'm sure you can gain the knowledge and materials needed.

    Good luck!

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    Re: Good Trade???

    Bit odd though that anyone would trade of 3 gravid females, that have been bred to morphs, for a bunch of ASF's. I'm always a bit leary of any deal that seems to good to be true. Check this breeder out on Fauna BOI or ask around here. Insist on taking your ASF's to him so you can check out the conditions these females were kept in. I'd hate to see you do a trade for what you think are nice captive, gravid females and end up with 3 hard to care for gravid imports. If he did indeed breed these females, he should have exact records for you to review as well as the male snakes on site.

    I'm not saying to not do the deal, just be cautious about it.
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    Re: Good Trade???

    Quote Originally Posted by frankykeno View Post
    Bit odd though that anyone would trade of 3 gravid females, that have been bred to morphs, for a bunch of ASF's. I'm always a bit leary of any deal that seems to good to be true. Check this breeder out on Fauna BOI or ask around here. Insist on taking your ASF's to him so you can check out the conditions these females were kept in. I'd hate to see you do a trade for what you think are nice captive, gravid females and end up with 3 hard to care for gravid imports. If he did indeed breed these females, he should have exact records for you to review as well as the male snakes on site.

    I'm not saying to not do the deal, just be cautious about it.
    I am going to go to him. He is need of feeders he said he has around 30 snakes. This is his first year of breeding so there is no BOI on him. I am quite leery but I am going to give it a go. He said that there is a possibility that they may be gravid. Even if they are not a couple of snakes for 60 or so ASF's is a good deal IMO

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    Re: Good Trade???

    Sorry but i just a quick question, what does ASF's mean and also what is a gravid ball python

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjones View Post
    Sorry but i just a quick question, what does ASF's mean and also what is a gravid ball python
    African Soft Fur rats....Gravid = eggs inside....

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