Quote Originally Posted by stevenkeogh View Post
Mojave, Lessers, Russo het lucy/high yellow/lemon line, butters when combined with each other or with themselves can produce a super "lesser complex" blue eyed lucy.
A phantom combined with lesser has been proven to produce a BEL as well.
The homozygous form of the phantom is not a typical BEL.
The "hidden gene"/"Platty gene" plays no part in the creation of BELs.
I'd personally argue that a homozygous Mojave isn't a BluEL either - almost but not quite. As for the Platty hidden gene, it certainly appears allelic to the rest based on the breeding results of Platties and Butter Daddies; just because it doesn't make a white snake when combined with the other alleles on the locus doesn't mean it's not the same gene

But then that's coming from a background in mouse colour genetics and seeing the different visual outputs from the six different traits on the Agouti locus (in order from most dominant to least: Dominant Viable Yellow, Dominant Lethal Yellow, Agouti, Tan, Self, Extreme Non-Agouti) - any of the six can be combined to get various visual outputs. A het-Tan / het-Extreme Non-Agouti looks totally different to a het-Agouti /het-Dominant Lethal Yellow.

As for normal-looking animals... I must admit that unless you catch him right after a shed, my Fire looks no different to a light, bright normal *unless you know the specific markers to look for* and my Pastel is not amazingly different to a CF baby we got from an import last year that is probably a light, bright normal too.