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Re: The controversial enclosure is finished
 Originally Posted by Dutti
I say loud and clear, i built my enclosure like this because i had more height than floor space to offer. If i had more floor space i would have done it differently.
 Originally Posted by Sunnieskys
So because YOU didn't have proper space for an animal you are neglecting it by having an enclosure you yourself has said is wrong from your statement above.
I agree with Sunnieskys here, you couldn't swing an extra 19" of floor space? Is where you live really that cramped? I find that hard to believe, but like I said earlier, it seems like you really wish to either (1) prove some sort of point, or (2) find the prospect of changing the front doors on the enclosure too much of a pain. I.e. you already had the bare bones of this enclosure and were dead set on not changing it for whatever reason. It's actually almost comical how the dimensions are oriented, as you could have made it 2.62' long and 2' deep (same floor space) and I feel like even that would have been better from a thermal gradient / front door placement perspective. Plus, it would be much easier to reach into.
 Originally Posted by Sunnieskys
Ok, I'm going to ask you a question and I'm not being snarky. I want you to see this a different way.
If you lived in a apartment with a bedroom. Would you put a king bed in the bedroom to sleep or would you use Velcro and sleep against the wall? Would you live in housing where you had to climb one ladder to 4 levels or would you live in a smaller house with one level?
While I like the sentiment, you can't really use this analogy. If the snake wanted to simply use the floor space, it could. His floor space, as I have noted before, is larger than comparable tubs widely used across their forum by breeders and keepers alike, yet they (more or less) escape criticism. If the snake wanted to sleep flat, it could do so, there is adequate space. Obviously I'd like to see more floor space, but I have to be fair. Many breeder tubs are only 6" tall, which is rather short, thus I could say something to the effect of: "would you like to be able to raise your head above a prone position at your leisure?" I am probably skirting anthropomorphism here, but the idea is there.
Also, in regards to your thermal gradient, you note that the "warm spot" is on the tiles, which look too me like they are in the front of the enclosure. If that is indeed the case, you should place them more to one side, so he has a warm spot towards the back of the enclosure. 2.62' deep is fairly deep and warmth towards the back of the enclosure would likely help with a feeling of security. If he is eating regularly though, it may be a non-issue.
 Originally Posted by Miranda2
I would consider adding two more shelves on the opposite side for a ladder effect, so if he should slip and fall could catch himself as well as adding more usable space.
If you are going to insist on using this cage you should really do something like this. Add shelves and clutter, both on the ground and "in the air". The cage is too sparse for security and if you wanted to limit the potential danger of a fall, this would be how. If I were designing an enclosure like this for any species of reptile, I would have far more furniture that shown.
Last edited by Regius_049; 01-04-2018 at 10:51 AM.
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