Do you avoid morphs with known genetic flaws?

[RobNJ]

Of course not. It's the same as the goldfish that have HUGE eyes sticking out of their head.
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...58&pcatid=2758
There are also 'bubble cheek' goldfish that have huge pouches under their eyes.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/65304419@N00/3109378507

I had these goldfish when I was a kid and I loved them.

I shouldn't even have to describe it, but obviously, the huge eyes and cheek pouches can be damaged and even POP. Yes, they can break open, and the fish will be left swimming around, until it dies, with broken loose skin from the huge pouches. It can happen from sharp rocks in the tank, the filter intake, or other fish biting. Do YOU think that's good? They die if that happens to them. People are still breeding them, saying the same thing as you are about spiders.

There is nothing in my spider's enclosure that it can hurt itself on.

Not a single person has been able to tell me why them seem to have to breed spiders.

Because we like them, and like what breeding them does in combination with other genes.

Whether you like what I say or not, if someone has the will power, they can easily avoid buying spiders, and like people always say about breeding ball pythons, if you aren't patient or don't have enough self control, you shouldn't be doing it.

While patience and self control are important in this hobby, i don't see what that has to do with will power and not buying spiders. Some people don't like spiders, many people do. The people who do like them buy them and breed them for that reason, not because we have this insatiable urge to own/breed defective animals.

Reptile vets are normally surprised that people are still breeding spiders, even after they know that they have problems.

My vet likes spiders.

The fact that people back each other up doesn't help. One post with someone saying 'spiders aren't bad. Just buy what you like' gets thanked 10 times.
The single comment made by another person, other than mine, saying 'why do people still breed them', doesn't get thanked, it just gets tons of negative replies talking about how colorful the combo morphs are with spider.

If someone can come to the table with good reasons and facts as to why spiders should not be bred and present themselves in such a manner that doesn't come off as condemnation, I would happily "Thank" their post. Doesn't mean I'll stop keeping/breeding spiders, but I could appreciate it nonetheless.

How could we live without it?

I know!!!
Pretend it's not there.

It's a little too late for that

I guess it's pretty hard, based on all of the impulsive-purchases and people regretting that they bought the baby retic at an expo, then releasing it.

Irrelevant to the matter at hand.

People need self control. I know there are people that think before they buy a spider, but when they are hearing other people constantly talking about how good it is, the decision is biased.

I've not made one purchase based on opinions of the masses, including my spider. I'm sure many others can say the same.

There are dog breeds that can only give birth through c-section. Is it going to be that bad with ball pythons in years?

If that's what it takes to get eggs out of a Desert!



Ok, so now on a more serious note...Robin said you where what, 15? My hats off to you that at that age you seem so passionate about something and are able to organize and present your thoughts. That being said, I can see why people may be fairly dismissive of your posts based on how you present them...it almost comes with an air of elitism. Discussions without lecturing will always get you feedback...now whether it's feedback you agree with or not is beyond me, but you'll get better results. You can't expect to come on here being so highly opinionated about what is a sensitive subject to many one way or the other and expect to change peoples' minds.

Other than that, all I can say is to go out and get yourself a spider....