Quote Originally Posted by enchantress62 View Post
So let me get this straight. You say get facts. Okay, the OP walked into the store with his family, including children, and witnessed the conditions he described. He explained that he talked with an employee who only reinforced his concerns.

Now, short of contacting the owner, which I agree, should have been the first step. how would you have gathered more facts? The OP witnessed the neglect first hand. His wife and children also witnessed the conditions and I'm sure are in support of his efforts.

Also, if you had read all of the post's you would have seen that I advised him to contact the ASPCA and report the stores conditions or go back with camera in hand and take pictures, then when asked, tell them that he just thought the ASPCA should know what a fine job they are doing. I never told him to go to the press but since he did at least we can support his efforts. He did something. What have you done to end this kind of neglect/abuse?

And.... The name calling says more about you then it does about me.

To the OP, I appologize for getting off topic a little. I think you did well because the outcome was benefitial to the animals. Maybe you could go back to the store in a couple weeks and see for yourself if the necissary changes were made.
First, I want to appologize for any rude remarks made to you by others on this thread.
Second, thank you for seeing that I truely ment no harm to the herp community, I just wanted to help save and protect animals that we all care for and love.

I also want to clear up one thing. I did contact the store manager, and when he was no help I contacted the owners who seemed to pass the issue off as just another gripe and nothing to care about. The only reason I went as far as I did was to get my point that the animals health was at risk. The aspca said it could and more then likely would be middle of next month before they could do anything. Now please I dare anyone reading this to tell me that a bp with sever scale rot and a RI thats so bad the poor thing is gasping for air, mixed with 4 other bps and a baby burm, please try and tell me yheyd still have a chance of survival if I had let the matter go for a month... I'm pretty sure they would all have been sick if not dead. Now lets put it this way, the bps in question are just a $ to the owners. Now to an owner of they have 5 bps marked at $60each and a burm at $150 give or take, those animals die they take $450 or so in a loss, unless the breeder offers a credit for unsold animals. So do you really think they give a damn when someone complains? I think not. I do know that the second you bring in any sorce that will effect total store income, the people in charge take notice. Anyways all is said and done for now. I plan on returning to the store in a few days and verify thing have come to order.
Raptor, as for you I dont see why you decided to turn this into a mudslunging forum but if you remember when you responded to my prior post when you said you have visited that store, I asked you to go and see if I was overacting, and yet I dont believe you did, simply due to the fact your still defending the company. Untill you see what I saw and handled, i'd like to remind you I was, and always will do what I believe to be right.
I'd again like to thank everyone thats read this intire thread and see's I was only doing what I felt was right for the animals.