Okay, didn't know the granite was an ingredient. The Hidden Gene Woma is listed on NERD's site right now for $3,500. I also got that directly from an e-mail to Kevin earlier this year. So, has anybody developed the combo with a regular Woma and if so, what did it look like? I think I have seen someone with a Lesser/Regular Woma (might have been Northern Regius but not 100% sure) and it looked pretty close to the Soul Sucker from what I remember.