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[xanaxez]

As another carpet breeder, I will back Colin and Chuck on the use of "creative marketing" terms. Myself, and both of these guys, have been around long enough to see the misuse of marketing terms like this. For example, hypo and red hypo jags. Alot of people spent good money on these to find that they were nothing special.

As far as the tiger goes, there mode of inheritance is still yet to be determined. Coastals are variable by nature and there are several striped lines out there. I for one, produce one of those lines. My coastals have a lot of the same qualities that tigers have but they are not tigers.
Tiger inheritance is still only educated guesses at this moment.

that i can relate to and agree with. as far as coloring or them being called coined as hcq or whta ever someone whats to call them for what ever purposes rather it be marketing or whatever that happens every day in all sorts of business advertisements and such. what i am disagreeing to and and the purpose of the debate/ discusion is that fact of rather it being a tiger or not. also as you stated the tiger inheritance is still edgucated gueses so rather none of us know for sure i guess none of us can say rather a tiger has to be fully striped or not. i understand that a hcq is just merely a nice coastal and i dont dissagree with that but to say because a something doesnt have a solid stripe so therefor cant be a tiger in my opinion is false. im sure they are alot of breeders that say they cant and alot they say they can and all of the ones i am aware of (some that are very well known) say they can and do. but if the tigers inheritance is just an edgucated guess then that would mean that niether one of us can say we are right or wrong then doesnt it? that would mean none of us can prove whats actually a tiger and what isnt. i have a carpet that has a stipe down its back and a stripe down one of its side and was procuded by anthony caponneto so does that make it a tiger since it has a a stripe? i mean im willing to take all information because i have not been into carpets long and i dont claim to know everything i just learn by reading and what i have read from or by big time breeders appears to be different then others opinions so if you have more information or proof on what a tiger is and what it isnt then by all means share it and ill read up on it.

[Colin Vestrand]

alright... so back to my original question, do you know what a co-dom morph is? i don't mean can you copy a definition from someone's website... if we can assume the tiger is a co-dom morph, which it most likely IS, then what you're saying does not make any sense at all.
just for the record, i currently have four different striped coastals, all from different lines, only one is a tiger... so yes, we all know that there are other striped lines so if you're trying to learn something, don't try and insult the ones that can teach you something.

[xanaxez]

im not trying to insult anyone. im just merely posting what i have either read or have been told. do i know how of the the co-dom genes and all of that work? that answer would be no.like i said a month or so back when we talked before in a thread i havent been in this long at all hence the reading forums and websites and talking to large breeders and so forth to get information on things and learn. like i stated earlier i have alot of people and breeders that say they can and do have tigers that arent striped. then i have people also saying they cant be a tiger if not striped. even larry from retile radio and bush-league breeders club says it's a tiger. if you have sites or forums or somewheres that i ca nread up on the gene aspects of what types of morphs or what makes morphs then by all means send it my way i never turn down reading material. i'm willing to learn as much as the next guy.

[littleindiangirl]

Not everyone who comments on topics is an informed person.

[Chuck]

Look I am sorry to everyone if I got a little heated, I know my comments may have been a little harsh. I just wanted to apologize if I offended anyone. Remember first and foremost we are all Moreliaheads and that trumps all.

Chuck

[DavidG]

Not everyone who comments on topics is an informed person.

Best advice in those whole thread. Which was more than entertaining to scan threw.

[janeothejungle]

i mean im willing to take all information because i have not been into carpets long and i dont claim to know everything i just learn by reading and what i have read from or by big time breeders appears to be different then others opinions so if you have more information or proof on what a tiger is and what it isnt then by all means share it and ill read up on it.

I find your arrogance astounding. You come in here spouting off like you're the foremost authority, you insult reputable breeders, you show off your OBVIOUS ignorance when it comes to understanding basic genetics, and you have the nerve to then throw out the 'I'm still new' defense and expect anyone to take you seriously? Spare me, seriously.

My .02

~Kat