Scaleless bp

[Kodieh]

BHB posted a pic on their instagram yesterday so I don't think it's a leak. They don't appear to have heat pits, but I read a comment somewhere, I think it was on youtube, that Brian was saying they do have heat pits. They are just harder to see since there are no scales marking where they are.

Brian on Facebook called it a "leak", as he wanted it to come out when the article or interview were released. So, I guess an employee could have done it. Or, Brian wanted to hype it.

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[Artemisace]

"leak" huh, maybe they are hyping it a bit, or something along those lines. Either way, I think they're cute little things and I can't wait to see him do a video about them.

[jwill226]

I'm not sure how I feel about scaleless but to all the people that don't like them I would remind you that there was a time that people viewed breeding albinos as wrong. Like albinos the scaleless would have a hard time surviving in nature. You need to remember that the scaleless and most albinos wont be surviving in nature. They will be thriving in someones collection. As long as people can learn what it takes to keep them healthy I see nothing wrong with it.

There are plenty of morphs out there that I doubt would make it in nature due to their coloring. An ivory or a pied (I'm sure there are others) wouldn't blend into their surroundings as well making them easy targets for predators just like the albino. So should we not breed those either? To take it a step further I think most people on this forum live in an area where the BP all together wouldn't thrive. So should those people not be allowed to keep them?

As far as me wanting one or not even if I did there is no way I could afford one any time in the near future so I wont worry about it. I would think most people buy expensive morphs because they like the beauty of that morph. I think most breeders breed what they find to be appealing to them first then for money second. So I say let the people that like the beauty of scaleless have what they want. No one is making you buy them or forcing you to use the scaleless gene in your future projects.

[HQexotics]

Seeing how bhb produced the scaleless. What impact do you guys think this will have?


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I JUST saw the video and how it exists now! I didnt even know about the scaleless heads! THIS IS AMAZING!!!! A SCALELESS BALL PYTHON! OMG OMG OMG Brian is really making the money now XD THIS CHANGES THE BALL PYTHON TRADE COMPLETELY! Its my dream to produce something this amazing in my life. )

[Pythonfriend]

yes, i want to add that they are really amazing. scaleless BPs are amazing

but there are no news, i got no news on new scaleless being hatched (i think two scaleless exist at BHB and thats it on the planet), and no news on new scaleless heads hatching.

this is potentially a zombie thread, i mean, it depends, is there anything new?

[Zombree]

I really love my scales. They are smooth, they are shiny looking and they are natural feeling and sort of have that taboo aggressive looking touch- at least to the people who don't know snakes very well. I love Brian B. a lot and BHB. But I have seen older scaleless adults and I don't think they are nearly as impressive as fully scaled adult comparatives. I think it was a break in history, yes. I think he deserves tons of kudos, yes. But I will never want one, I don't think or breed them. But it was a very big feat. So I will give him that.
As far as disease and what not, I really don't think it will progress that far into popularity. Hopefully not anyway. If it does then yes, I would really worry about it. But I am betting that it won't.

*Scaleless adults meaning other scaleless species- NOT ball pythons.

[Pythonfriend]

I really love my scales. They are smooth, they are shiny looking and they are natural feeling and sort of have that taboo aggressive looking touch- at least to the people who don't know snakes very well. I love Brian B. a lot and BHB. But I have seen older scaleless adults and I don't think they are nearly as impressive as fully scaled adult comparatives. I think it was a break in history, yes. I think he deserves tons of kudos, yes. But I will never want one, I don't think or breed them. But it was a very big feat. So I will give him that.
As far as disease and what not, I really don't think it will progress that far into popularity. Hopefully not anyway. If it does then yes, I would really worry about it. But I am betting that it won't.

*Scaleless adults meaning other scaleless species- NOT ball pythons.

as a morph, it will take off, it will do so in a big way. but of course it will not be everywhere, it will not be widespread. some breeders will stay away, some breeders will only get a scaleless head and will keep scaleless head floating around without breeding scaleless head to scaleless head, and other breeders will produce multi-gene morph fully scaleless BPs. i want to see all the new optics, like: a really good single-gene black pastel, what does it look like in scaleless?

anyway, this pandoras box will be opened, we can speculate on what will be in it. this gene will become available, there is no doubt. we just have to see what happens from there.

[Zombree]

as a morph, it will take off, it will do so in a big way. but of course it will not be everywhere, it will not be widespread. some breeders will stay away, some breeders will only get a scaleless head and will keep scaleless head floating around without breeding scaleless head to scaleless head, and other breeders will produce multi-gene morph fully scaleless BPs. i want to see all the new optics, like: a really good single-gene black pastel, what does it look like in scaleless?

anyway, this pandoras box will be opened, we can speculate on what will be in it. this gene will become available, there is no doubt. we just have to see what happens from there.

I agree to an extent. I do think it will be interesting to see people make scaleless bananas and pinstripes and all that. But I won't be one of the makers, lol.