Lemon pastel?

[angllady2]

thank you.
some one who took the time, to thoroughly explain.
i simply was confused as why they would label an already labeled animal.
confusing.

Well, the reason some morphs carry names is because the big names in the business, the ones who made it possible for most of us to have these morphs, named them.

For example, if NERD had an imported, wild caught pastel that they were breeding out and using to improve their stock, while at the same time Greg Grazani had an imported, wild caught pastel if his own he was breeding out in the same way, once they got to the point they were selling babies, it was important to some people to have a way to know which line of imported pastels they were buying, hence NERD used 'Lemon' because they were breeding for bright lemon yellows. Greg used his own name 'Grazani' to distinguish his snakes from NERD's.

Over time of course, other people imported pastels, and snakes from other breeders got cross bred back and forth, so most people just dropped the titles, unless of course they bought from one of the breeders who named the line and can prove the animals parentage.

Lately, people have taken to calling ANY bright baby pastel a lemon, which is unfortunate, because it does cause a lot of confusion. But, if you want to know for sure what you have, buy from a reputable breeder with excellent records. Otherwise, just enjoy your snake for what it is, an excellent example of it's morph.

Gale

[seeya205]

crbballs and rabernet - Those are some hot pastels! I also paid more than average for my girl and I don't regret it it! Actually she is my favorite to date!!! If you want a name for your pastel, you can call it repicon pastel! No lies there!

[ace_singapore]

After all, quality is more important than the names, be it banana pastel or mango pastel whatever you like to call it...

[steveboos]

Your pastel is nothing special, just a good quality pastel, no big deal. Don't be so defensive over your snake, it's just a pastel.

[sookieball]

you know i baught my second ball from becky at wfreptiles in montclair.

he was labeled "pastel" not lemon, graziani, green what have you.

and to be honest, he held his color so spectacularly, that it wouldn't surprise me if i could pass him off as a lemon pastel.

he's now 1000grams, at a year old. and striped neck, striped tail, high blushings, super bright yellows, dirty back(kinda spurractic but not over whelming)

and he's just a normal pastel. you luck out on some and you hit the jackpot with others.

im sure yours is a normal pastel that has nice good solid gene's and would be great to breed him out to continue his beauty.

but i've learned never to come onto the forum about a "is she special"
alot of people(though they may not be intentional) sound mean or rude.

but like text messaging, you cant hear the tone of voice someone is using while typeing.


nice pastel!

[seeya205]

People here do get tired of the "I bought a normal but is it something?" threads! The bottom line is you pay for what you get! You pay the price of a normal, you get a normal! If you want a lemon pastel then pay the price of a lemon! If you like the look of a snake and don't know the line it came from, who cares! You should buy what you like and love it it no matter what its worth!

[crbballs]

crbballs and rabernet - Those are some hot pastels! I also paid more than average for my girl and I don't regret it it! Actually she is my favorite to date!!! If you want a name for your pastel, you can call it repicon pastel! No lies there!

Thanks for the comment. What it comes down to like some one else said is you get what you pay for. There's you different grade and good example of the morphs. Goes with any morph, if you get a reduced pattern clown or a high white pied you are very likely to pay more for that animal. Goes for the same with the quality of pastel you get. Its kinda like buying a new car vs a used car. You will always pay more for the new because its in perfect condition. Same with snakes. New or used bmw is still a bmw.

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[MitsuMike]

Thanks for the comment. What it comes down to like some one else said is you get what you pay for. There's you different grade and good example of the morphs. Goes with any morph, if you get a reduced pattern clown or a high white pied you are very likely to pay more for that animal. Goes for the same with the quality of pastel you get. Its kinda like buying a new car vs a used car. You will always pay more for the new because its in perfect condition. Same with snakes. New or used bmw is still a bmw.

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Agreed. But I never understood why anyone would pay hundreds of dollars more for a high white pied vs any other pied. I can understand with reduced patterns or bright pastels, but I have seen "high whites" going for 600+ dollars over the regular pieds. Seeing that any pied can produced a high or low white snake that morph doesn't seem to be worth the extra money. NOW a bright pastel or a reduced pattern pin/spider. Maybe a hundred over the norm maybe a couple more bucks depending on the snake. Especially SansCeras new Yellow Belly! WOW

[Tzeentch]

I personally do not care for Lemon, Grazani, SKS, NERD or any "line". "Line" to me is just another word for "inbreed".

And I do not care for inbreeding. Yes, it happens, but "out of site, out of mind"

So I skip right over the ones labeled "lemon", NERD or any "line"

Give me the one who was not breed to its mother 10 times just to get a little brighter yellow.

[MitsuMike]

I personally do not care for Lemon, Grazani, SKS, NERD or any "line". "Line" to me is just another word for "inbreed".

And I do not care for inbreeding. Yes, it happens, but "out of site, out of mind"

So I skip right over the ones labeled "lemon", NERD or any "line"

Give me the one who was not breed to its mother 10 times just to get a little brighter yellow.

I guess you will never own a AKC dog breed or CFA cat breeds and technically you shouldn't like Ball Pythons at all. Every "breed"/"morph" started with 1 or very few animals who were bred together over and over again.