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    breeding licence

    i know you guys get this alot but i was wondering.

    how do you go about getting a breeding licensce in NJ."qwas dc"poe my ferret says hi

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    Re: breeding licence

    Why would you need a breeding license? I've heard people ask this before and never knew what they were talking about. I've been breeding snakes for 17 years and have never needed a license.

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    Re: breeding licence

    Some animals are USDA regulated and I know that pet stores have to register with them in order to sell certain species. Hedgehogs, Sugar gliders, chins, etc...

    Ball pythons are not covered and as far as I'm aware, you do not need a license in any state to breed them.
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    Re: breeding licence

    i have been reading alot of the nj animal rules and regulations and ive been reading bout licenses for breeding reptiles .

    i didnt think you needed one but i just wanted to clarify since i do want to be able to sell the babies bps once i start my albino project next year i have 2 hets picked out

    and thank you all that have answered and will answer

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    Re: breeding licence

    In Florida you need a license to sell snakes, at least to a pet store or if you're a legitimate business. Yyou get it from the Fish and Wildlife Service. It's $50 yearly I believe.
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    Re: breeding licence

    I don't know if there is a license to breeding, but I remember reading (I don't know if you were the same thread creator or not) but there is a license to own them I believe.

    Also the same license is needed to own a dwarf hamster.... I'm still trying to digest that new fact too
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    Re: breeding licence

    NJ is a little screwy when it comes to this.....

    Quote from NJ Legislation: It is illegal to BREED or sell regulated wildlife species under an Individual Hobby Exotic and Nongame possession permit"

    The reptile possession rules and regs as explained by NJ Fish and Wildlife require that one possesses a "permit" to possess certain animals. I have recently found out, that Ball Pythons are most certainly included in this "permit required" field.

    For full text of the law see this site: http://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/pdf/permregs.pdf

    Moving on... In order to possess these specific specie of reptile, one must obtain a "hobby" permit for exotic or non-game species. This permit is good for all non-dangerous reptiles that require a permit from NJF&W. However, you must notify the division of any additions or subtractions from your collection.

    Now here is the tricky part, how do you obtain a permit?? When purchasing a BP from a licensed dealer (who has a "pet shop" permit from fish and wildlife) they will issue you a 20 day temporary permit, with instruction on how to file for your $10 hobby permit. This permit usually takes about 3 weeks to get once you mail your application. Here is where it gets tricky... They will only add additional animals to your hobby permit, if you have the 20 day temporary permit issued from your NJ pet shop dealer.

    This 20 day permit "booklet" issued to pet shop dealers is the only legal way to sell or receive a BP in NJ. However, after speaking to NJF&W on the phone, pets brought into NJ may be added to a pre-existing permit "upon proper application by letter to the division" END QUOTE.

    As far as breeding goes, the only time "captive breeding" is mentioned in the text of the law, is in reference to a "scientific holding" permit issued by the state. This permit allows captive breeding, but not resale specifically.

    So, it would appear to me after reading the text of the regulation a few times, that in order to sell or transfer in any way (in NJ) one must possess a "pet shop" permit issued by the state. (Cost $100). This permit IS issued to pet shops and individuals relating to the sale of exotic and non-game species. The scientific holding permit is only issued to 'QUALIFIED' individuals. (Cost $35) but again, no transfer or sale on this permit.

    If you would like to breed and sell BP's in NJ legally, I believe (and i'm not a lawyer) that you need a "pet shop" permit. But please keep in mind, this permit requires record keeping of each animal received, transfered, imported or exported, and a report of this is due to NJF&W each year upon renawal of your permit. I've attached a copy of the state "definitions" of each type of permit below.........

    Good luck sorting threw NJ's legal terminology...
    (Please note that Pet Shop and Animal Dealer terminoligy may be interchanged, as although they are different types of permits, the definition and fees for application, as well as inspection and reporting requirements are identical. The only difference is the "pet shop" permit is primarily retail sale, and "animal dealer" is primarily wholesale to "Pet Shop" permit holders. (See Below))
    -Ben

    (a) The Division may issue, but shall not be limited to, the
    following categories of permits.
    1. Individual hobby-issued to persons holding exotic
    mammals, birds, reptiles or amphibians, or nongame species for
    hobby purpose or as pets.
    2. Scientific holding-issued to qualified persons holding
    exotic mammals, birds, reptiles or amphibians, or nongame species
    for scientific observation, captive breeding [I][U]attempts and other
    scientific or educational study.
    3. Zoological-issued to private and public institutions which
    exhibit exotic mammals, birds, reptiles or amphibians, or nongame
    species, including possession, importation, exportation and sale of
    species listed in the permit.
    4. Pet Shop-issued to individuals and establishments
    engaged in the retail sale of mammals, birds, reptiles or
    amphibians, or nongame species including importation, exportation
    and sale of species listed in the permit.
    5. Animal Dealer-issued to individuals and establishments
    engaged in the wholesale of mammals, birds, reptiles or
    amphibians, or nongame species including importation, exportation
    and sale of species listed in the permit.
    6. Animal Exhibitor-issued to exhibitors of exotic
    mammals, birds, reptiles or amphibians, or nongame species other
    than zoos. Traveling exhibits, small exhibitions not qualifying as
    zoos, and circuses are included, including importation, exportation,
    and sale of species listed in the permit.
    7. Animal Theatrical Agencies-issued to the persons
    owning exotic mammals, birds, reptiles or amphibians, or nongame
    species to be hired for advertising, acting, or theatrical
    appearances, including importation, exportation, and sale of
    species listed in the permit.
    8. Scientific Collecting-issued to persons to collect nongame
    species or escaped exotic mammals, birds, reptiles or amphibians
    for scientific studies or other approved purposes, when such
    activity is shown to have a beneficial effect on the conservation of
    the species, the public welfare or the environment.
    9. Special Purpose Salvage-issued to persons or institutions
    to salvage dead migratory birds or parts thereof, for scientific or
    education purposes.
    10. Special Wildlife Salvage-issued to persons or institutions
    to salvage dead nongame species, or parts thereof, other than
    migratory birds, for scientific or education purposes.
    11. Endangered Species-issued to persons or institutions for
    the possession of endangered species for conservation or research
    purposes.
    12. Depredation control-issued to persons or establishments
    to control nongame species, which are creating a hazard to public
    safety, crops, livestock or similar concerns.
    13. Rehabilitation-issued to persons to rescue, rehabilitate
    and release nongame and endangered birds.
    14. Bird Breeder-issued to persons meeting the regulatory
    criteria for possessing wild-caught bird species to acquire birds for
    use as new breeding stock to increase genetic variety. This permit
    does not authorize the resale of wild-caught birds acquired under
    this permit except with the permission of the Department to
    another holder of a bird breeder permit. Those engaged in the
    retailing or wholesaling of birds must also have a pet shop or
    animal dealer permit.
    Last edited by bcampos; 08-02-2007 at 11:04 PM.

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    Re: breeding licence

    Quote Originally Posted by bcampos
    NJ is a little screwy when it comes to this.....

    Quote from NJ Legislation: It is illegal to BREED or sell regulated wildlife species under an Individual Hobby Exotic and Nongame possession permit"

    The reptile possession rules and regs as explained by NJ Fish and Wildlife require that one possesses a "permit" to possess certain animals. I have recently found out, that Ball Pythons are most certainly included in this "permit required" field.

    For full text of the law see this site: http://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/pdf/permregs.pdf

    Moving on... In order to possess these specific specie of reptile, one must obtain a "hobby" permit for exotic or non-game species. This permit is good for all non-dangerous reptiles that require a permit from NJF&W. However, you must notify the division of any additions or subtractions from your collection.

    Now here is the tricky part, how do you obtain a permit?? When purchasing a BP from a licensed dealer (who has a "pet shop" permit from fish and wildlife) they will issue you a 20 day temporary permit, with instruction on how to file for your $10 hobby permit. This permit usually takes about 3 weeks to get once you mail your application. Here is where it gets tricky... They will only add additional animals to your hobby permit, if you have the 20 day temporary permit issued from your NJ pet shop dealer.

    This 20 day permit "booklet" issued to pet shop dealers is the only legal way to sell or receive a BP in NJ. However, after speaking to NJF&W on the phone, pets brought into NJ may be added to a pre-existing permit "upon proper application by letter to the division" END QUOTE.

    As far as breeding goes, the only time "captive breeding" is mentioned in the text of the law, is in reference to a "scientific holding" permit issued by the state. This permit allows captive breeding, but not resale specifically.

    So, it would appear to me after reading the text of the regulation a few times, that in order to sell or transfer in any way (in NJ) one must possess a "pet shop" permit issued by the state. (Cost $100). This permit IS issued to pet shops and individuals relating to the sale of exotic and non-game species. The scientific holding permit is only issued to 'QUALIFIED' individuals. (Cost $35) but again, no transfer or sale on this permit.

    If you would like to breed and sell BP's in NJ legally, I believe (and i'm not a lawyer) that you need a "pet shop" permit. But please keep in mind, this permit requires record keeping of each animal received, transfered, imported or exported, and a report of this is due to NJF&W each year upon renawal of your permit. I've attached a copy of the state "definitions" of each type of permit below.........

    Good luck sorting threw NJ's legal terminology...
    (Please note that Pet Shop and Animal Dealer terminoligy may be interchanged, as although they are different types of permits, the definition and fees for application, as well as inspection and reporting requirements are identical. The only difference is the "pet shop" permit is primarily retail sale, and "animal dealer" is primarily wholesale to "Pet Shop" permit holders. (See Below))
    -Ben

    (a) The Division may issue, but shall not be limited to, the
    following categories of permits.
    1. Individual hobby-issued to persons holding exotic
    mammals, birds, reptiles or amphibians, or nongame species for
    hobby purpose or as pets.
    2. Scientific holding-issued to qualified persons holding
    exotic mammals, birds, reptiles or amphibians, or nongame species
    for scientific observation, captive breeding [I][U]attempts and other
    scientific or educational study.
    3. Zoological-issued to private and public institutions which
    exhibit exotic mammals, birds, reptiles or amphibians, or nongame
    species, including possession, importation, exportation and sale of
    species listed in the permit.
    4. Pet Shop-issued to individuals and establishments
    engaged in the retail sale of mammals, birds, reptiles or
    amphibians, or nongame species including importation, exportation
    and sale of species listed in the permit.
    5. Animal Dealer-issued to individuals and establishments
    engaged in the wholesale of mammals, birds, reptiles or
    amphibians, or nongame species including importation, exportation
    and sale of species listed in the permit.
    6. Animal Exhibitor-issued to exhibitors of exotic
    mammals, birds, reptiles or amphibians, or nongame species other
    than zoos. Traveling exhibits, small exhibitions not qualifying as
    zoos, and circuses are included, including importation, exportation,
    and sale of species listed in the permit.
    7. Animal Theatrical Agencies-issued to the persons
    owning exotic mammals, birds, reptiles or amphibians, or nongame
    species to be hired for advertising, acting, or theatrical
    appearances, including importation, exportation, and sale of
    species listed in the permit.
    8. Scientific Collecting-issued to persons to collect nongame
    species or escaped exotic mammals, birds, reptiles or amphibians
    for scientific studies or other approved purposes, when such
    activity is shown to have a beneficial effect on the conservation of
    the species, the public welfare or the environment.
    9. Special Purpose Salvage-issued to persons or institutions
    to salvage dead migratory birds or parts thereof, for scientific or
    education purposes.
    10. Special Wildlife Salvage-issued to persons or institutions
    to salvage dead nongame species, or parts thereof, other than
    migratory birds, for scientific or education purposes.
    11. Endangered Species-issued to persons or institutions for
    the possession of endangered species for conservation or research
    purposes.
    12. Depredation control-issued to persons or establishments
    to control nongame species, which are creating a hazard to public
    safety, crops, livestock or similar concerns.
    13. Rehabilitation-issued to persons to rescue, rehabilitate
    and release nongame and endangered birds.
    14. Bird Breeder-issued to persons meeting the regulatory
    criteria for possessing wild-caught bird species to acquire birds for
    use as new breeding stock to increase genetic variety. This permit
    does not authorize the resale of wild-caught birds acquired under
    this permit except with the permission of the Department to
    another holder of a bird breeder permit. Those engaged in the
    retailing or wholesaling of birds must also have a pet shop or
    animal dealer permit.
    And I will bet no one does this. Ask Jamie and I'll bet he will get a chuckle out of this law. I'm not saying to break the law but I know a couple of breeders in N.J. and I will bet they don't know or follow this rule. In most states many sexual positions are also illegal but, you get the idea.

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    f you would like to breed and sell BP's in NJ legally, I believe (and i'm not a lawyer) that you need a "pet shop" permit. But please keep in mind, this permit requires record keeping of each animal received, transfered, imported or exported, and a report of this is due to NJF&W each year upon renawal of your permit

    i wass gonna get a petshop permit anyways i want to own an exotic reptile shop and have a breeding fauclity on the premise.

    and thanks for the info i couldnt find anything.

    this is a great help

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    Re: breeding licence

    It is like anything else.. Yes in some states there are alot of OLD stupid laws, but in NJ these laws are updated quite often. Although the NJF&W does not have the manpower to check up on everyone, violations of these laws do get kinda expensive, if they actually enforce them. If I was going to breed and or sell, I'd just shell out the $100 for a pet shop permit.... Hell, people round here have no problem spending that kinda money on one snake, sometimes hundreds more... I'd just recommend getting the permit if you want to breed. Good Luck.

    -Ben

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