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What are the genes in ____?
Is there a source out there that has a list of all the morphs and their "ingredients"? (i.e. Bumblebee=Spider x pastel)
With all these folks creating names for their combos, it's difficult for a morph-newbie to really know the genetics involved.
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4.4 ball python
1.0 Albino ✮ 0.1 Coral Glow ✮ 0.1 Super Cinnamon paradox ✮ 1.0 Piebald ✮ 0.1 Pastel Enchi Leopard het Piebald ✮ 1.0 Coral Glow het Piebald ✮
1.0 corn snake
1.0 Hypo ✮
1.0 crested gecko
0.1 ???? ✮
0.1 cat
0.1 Maine Coon mix ✮
0.1 human ✌︎
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Re: What are the genes in ____?
 Originally Posted by tttaylorrr
You made it too easy lol!
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Re: What are the genes in ____?
Thank you!
Do y'all know how they update this?
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Re: What are the genes in ____?
Originally Posted by Jaust
Thank you!
Do y'all know how they update this?
my google chrome plugin says the page was updated as recently as today!
4.4 ball python
1.0 Albino ✮ 0.1 Coral Glow ✮ 0.1 Super Cinnamon paradox ✮ 1.0 Piebald ✮ 0.1 Pastel Enchi Leopard het Piebald ✮ 1.0 Coral Glow het Piebald ✮
1.0 corn snake
1.0 Hypo ✮
1.0 crested gecko
0.1 ???? ✮
0.1 cat
0.1 Maine Coon mix ✮
0.1 human ✌︎
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I believe it just gets updated as breeders create new combos and submit photos and combo info to them. So say I made a worlds first, I would take some pictures and send them to them with what the new combo is. I’m not sure how they approve or verify but I’m guessing it’s based on the word of the breeder.
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Re: What are the genes in ____?
A breeder I know says Black Pastel and Pastel also make Pewter. I picked up a “Black Pewter Pastel Bee” from him and he said genetics are Pastel, Black Pastel and Spider. What are the thoughts on this? Just trying to learn all I can about these types of things. Would that make it a Black Pewter as he says?
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As of July, 31st, 2018... (I think)
1.0.0 - Albino Pastel Black Pastel Pinstripe -384g ('18)
1.0.0 - Albino Candy - Candino ('17)
1.0.0 - Super Pastel Butter ('18)
1.0.0 - Pastel Calico - 735 ('16)
1.0.0 - Lesser Pastel - 1344g ('16)
1.0.0 - Black Pastel - 1680g ('15)
1.0.0 - Mojave Mystic - Mystic Potion ('16)
1.0.0 - Spotnose Spider
1.0.0 - Black Head ('16) |
0.1.0 - Lesser ('14)
0.1.0 - Orange Dream Pastel Spider - 453g ('17)
0.1.0 - Pied ('17)
0.1.0 - Pastel Black Pastel Spider ('16)
0.1.0 - Hypo Enchi Butter - 310g (‘17)
0.1.0 - Leopard (‘17)
0.1.0 - Orange Ghost ('16)
0.4.0 - Dinker YB ('17/18)
0.1.0 - Pinstripe Spider - Spinner ('18)
0.1.0 - Fire YB Brownie - 148g ('18)
0.1.0 - Columbian Red Tail Boa ('18)
0.1.0 - Pastel -1 544g ('15)
0.1.0 - Yellow Belly (rescue) ('13)
0.1.0 - Wild Type ('16)
0.1.0 - Spinner
0.1.0 - Spinner ('18) |
0.0.1 - Pinstripe Spider - Spinner ('17)
0.0.1 - Wild Type (rescue) ('?)
0.1.0 - Dinker ('18)
0.0.1 - Spinner ('17)
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Cinnamon and Black Pastel are very similar morphs and combos of those with other morphs are also generally similar (nice thread about them here: https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...S-Black-Pastel )
Cinnamon x Pastel = Pewter
Black Pastel x pastel = Black Pewter
The name difference is to show which gene was used.
For your Black Pewter Pastel Bee, the pastel is not necessary since it being a black pewter already means there is pastel in the mix, personally I'd call it a Black Pewter Bee
a "bee" refers to Bumblebee which is a combo of pastel and spider.
I hope that helps!
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Re: What are the genes in ____?
Originally Posted by AbsoluteApril
a "bee" refers to Bumblebee which is a combo of pastel and spider.
Unless it's a honey bee, or butter bee, which are ghost spiders and butter spiders respectively.
Black bees are black pastel spiders.
Im pretty sure those are the only bees that aren't pastel spiders. 
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