JCPs?

So at the expo coming up in November, I was thinking of getting one of these:
Western Hognose female
Albino Western Hognose female
Pastel BP
Jungle Carpet Python
Jaguar Carpet Python

Which do you think I should get? And also, can you tell me the price range for the Jags at expos? I already know Jungles will be somewhere around $100-$300. Will Jags run arund the same price? Oh and I want a baby female, or male (doesn't matter really, just give me the price ranges for both because I know females are more than males), but I usually like it when snakes are larger but really doesn't matter since I already have a snake that will max 7-8 ft. so male or female even though I love big snakes (not anything that gets over 10 ft. though) but males are just fine.

I voted "Jungle"! Good luck...:gj:

Make sure you do your research and get what YOU want. There is a large difference between Hogs and Morelia. I would stick with the Hog or BP. Morelia are active animals and require more room than the Hog or BP.

Jags will run you an easy $1,000+

I likes me some Morelia.

But like Joshua said, they do take up more room and are quite active, which sometimes makes it difficult for you to control them.

Later, Matt

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Originally Posted by Jerhart

Jags will run you an easy $1,000+

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i love ya man, but i gotta disagree... this years jags are going for around $300-500, or more for red coastal jags and jungle jags. i kinda wish they were still going for $1k :)

your chances of having a carpet python go over 10ft is pretty much 0 so i wouldn't worry about size.

speaking of size, i have a male adult hog and he's only about a foot long..... some are just extremely small. but they are really cool snakes.

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Originally Posted by Colin Vestrand

i love ya man, but i gotta disagree...

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Uh oh :O....Thug lovin too Thug thumpin! LOL j/k :D


Ps. Does it really matter what any of us think you should get? Not tryin to be a jerk, but that is kinda a weird question, and never understood why people ask it. I can understand people asking which pattern over one or the other, but not between species.

Thats like asking what you should eat in the morning, and wear when you get up, ya know? You should be asking yourself what you should get.

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Originally Posted by Colin Vestrand

i love ya man, but i gotta disagree... this years jags are going for around $300-500, or more for red coastal jags and jungle jags. i kinda wish they were still going for $1k :)

your chances of having a carpet python go over 10ft is pretty much 0 so i wouldn't worry about size.

speaking of size, i have a male adult hog and he's only about a foot long..... some are just extremely small. but they are really cool snakes.

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Eeeesh! You're right dude. I haven't really checked '09 prices. They sure have dropped in price! :O

Okay so what Colin said! $500+ for a Jag. :oops:

I guess I was just trying to say that you are looking at a large difference in enclosure size and prey size when you are talking Hogs, and Jungles. If you DO decide to go Jungle, make sure you read up on the husbandry requirements because they require a bit more than a Hog. :)

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Originally Posted by Colin Vestrand

your chances of having a carpet python go over 10ft is pretty much 0 so i wouldn't worry about size.

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^^ Now that'd be something to see!!! :)

Bredli's are my favorite and its not on the list so I will go with the jag carpet!

I would get a jungle carpet out of all of those. Since they are slender, it won't look like it is 7 ft. long when it is an adult, and a 7-8 ft. female may be the same weight as a big ball python female!I asked Brian from BHB what tub sizes he uses for his carpet pythons, and he puts them in 3x3x12, so I would think that would be suitable for an average sized male. I think carpets only get big enough to eat medium to large rats?IDK but they can take larger meals like jumbos.

I voted jag, but I'm a little biased towards carpet pythons :D

I think that since you put this in the morelia forum, you will get people who will be biased towards carpets... you should have posted this in the general herp forum because you have a range of species. If you had posted this in the ball python forum, the pastel might be winning right now... just saying


I voted albino wester hog because i think they are really cool looking :) I really do like pastel balls! Good luck deciding!

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Originally Posted by Patrick Long

Uh oh :O....Thug lovin too Thug thumpin! LOL j/k :D


Ps. Does it really matter what any of us think you should get? Not tryin to be a jerk, but that is kinda a weird question, and never understood why people ask it. I can understand people asking which pattern over one or the other, but not between species.

Thats like asking what you should eat in the morning, and wear when you get up, ya know? You should be asking yourself what you should get.

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True, but it's hard for me to decide lol. I was thinking more for a JCP, just not a nippy one. Me + nippy JCP does not work well at all lol. And I have done my research on JCPs before, I wouldn't just get a snake without doing the research. Actually, I did quite a lot of research on JCPs. I was looking more toawrd the JCP because I like having a different variety of snakes instead of having the same ones. Like, I have a King snake, Corn snake, Dumeril's boa, and a Western Hognose that I do not have more of. My BPs are the only snakes I have right now that I have more of (2) though I did plan on breeding next year. It's like experimenting for me, getting a variety of snakes and seeing which I like the most so I would continue purchasing that species.

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Originally Posted by CoolioTiffany

True, but it's hard for me to decide lol. I was thinking more for a JCP, just not a nippy one. Me + nippy JCP does not work well at all lol. And I have done my research on JCPs before, I wouldn't just get a snake without doing the research. Actually, I did quite a lot of research on JCPs. I was looking more toawrd the JCP because I like having a different variety of snakes instead of having the same ones. Like, I have a King snake, Corn snake, Dumeril's boa, and a Western Hognose that I do not have more of. My BPs are the only snakes I have right now that I have more of (2) though I did plan on breeding next year. It's like experimenting for me, getting a variety of snakes and seeing which I like the most so I would continue purchasing that species.

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All snakes can nippy. You just got to work with them. Undoubtedly though the juvies and hatchlings are the more flighty, but then they are small and your bigger then them and in their mind that means "predator." Just respect the snake and watch its movements and in return you will get a nice snake.

I would work with the snake if it did happen to be really nippy. I've worked with an aggressive snake before, and I am careful for the movements I make because sometimes I know fast movements startle snakes and then the snake will try to defend itself. I am still careful with my BPs because they sometimes get frightened when I make a fast movement, though, not so much my female BP.

Variety is the spice of life. I'm with you on that.

We have a JCP and LOVE him! We got him as a juvenile and he bit us MANY times before he calmed down (but no big injuries, just lots of "pin pricks"). Mostly, we had to be consistent and handle him every day or two. Once they reach sub-adult or adult size, about 5' and up IMHO, they calm down. But ours can still get pissy - like if you decide to change his water the day after you feed him instead of beforehand. He came up and flashed his open mouth at me saying, "Don't even think about handling me!"

All that said, JCP if you want to spend less, otherwise Jaguar ALL THE WAY if you have the dough. That is amazing that the price came down so much in the last two years. I held one of Will Bird's $1K Jag at Hamburg in February 2008. GORGEOUS!

Have fun!

so whatd you end up getting?

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Originally Posted by dc1

so whatd you end up getting?

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She got a bearded dragon, lol.

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Originally Posted by mainbutter

She got a bearded dragon, lol.

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And a Pastel Ball python, and a boa constrictor:D

I can't ever make up my mind, but I would never regret purchasing the reptiles I did at the show. They are all excellent animals and wonderful eaters. Even through all the stress they went through (especially the Pastel and Beardie) on the day I got them they still had no hesitation to eat for me.

Jag is the way to go I just picked up a 88%ij jag and I love her!!!

I find BP's pretty boring so if it was me I wouldn't get a pastel.

Western Hognoses are awesome everything you could want in a snake as far as personality goes but might be a too small of a snake for some. If you don't care about size then go for it! (an albino would be awesome to own!)

JCP= not too big not too small much more active and "fun", if you will, than a ball python but not as active as a Hognose. (maybe at night) And if you have the money for a jag, thats what I would get hands down.

BUT! ultimately its up to you.

Good luck! :)

Edit: I think im late

I voted jungle but it is a matter of what you like!

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Originally Posted by DutchHerp

I likes me some Morelia.

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So do I JCP are lways a good pick up