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  • 07-27-2009, 12:58 PM
    Dave763
    CBS News and my egg cam
    I got this email today. I guess they are going to use my vid in a story. I hope its not negative

    Good Morning-
    I am a producer for CBS News. We are doing a short news piece about Pythons and ran a brief video clip of your UStream python baby hatching video (assuming you are "Dave763"). I want to confirm how to best credit the video before distributing- we can run the shot with or without credit- it is up to you. please respond via e-mail call me at xxx-xxx-xxxx asap to let me know.
    Much thanx-
    Eliana

    Eliana Salzhauer
    Producer, CBS News/ The Early Show

    My reply

    Hi Eliana, yes I am dave763. My name is David Perkins. I am glad you are going to use my video. I do hope this story will view Ball Pythons in a positive light as they make great pets and are not a threat to the environment. To best credit the video would probably be just to put my name and website. thank you very much.
    http://davidperkinsreptiles.com/index.html
  • 07-27-2009, 12:59 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    Thats pretty cool! Hopefully they don't blow this thing up and start spouting lies :/
  • 07-27-2009, 01:03 PM
    Dave763
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    That's what I'm worried about:(
  • 07-27-2009, 01:06 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dave763 View Post
    That's what I'm worried about:(

    It would be nice if you could make yourself available for an interview or something. :/ Dunno if that is possible though.
  • 07-27-2009, 01:11 PM
    Dave763
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kaorte View Post
    It would be nice if you could make yourself available for an interview or something. :/ Dunno if that is possible though.

    Oh no...I'll leave that stuff to people like Brian. (Snakebytes)He would be perfect.
  • 07-27-2009, 01:31 PM
    Wh00h0069
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    Wow, that's awesome David. I hope the portray them positive. Please let us know when they are going to be showing the vid, so I can watch.
  • 07-27-2009, 01:34 PM
    asplundii
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    I am going to be a stick in the mud just cause I am the paranoid type.

    I would first require that I know what story they plan to use it for before I would grant permission.

    I can just see them using the pics of the eggs to slander us on the whole captive breeding front: "See here how a hobby breeder flagrantly publicizes eggs he is incubating from python like the one that killed that poor child in FL..."

    Remember, they are news agents, it is their job to lie through their teeth to get the story.
  • 07-27-2009, 01:40 PM
    Clementine_3
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
  • 07-27-2009, 01:40 PM
    rabernet
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by asplundii View Post
    I am going to be a stick in the mud just cause I am the paranoid type.

    I would first require that I know what story they plan to use it for before I would grant permission.

    I can just see them using the pics of the eggs to slander us on the whole captive breeding front: "See here how a hobby breeder flagrantly publicizes eggs he is incubating from python like the one that killed that poor child in FL..."

    Remember, they are news agents, it is their job to lie through their teeth to get the story.

    I'd have to agree - I would say that they do NOT have permission to use your clip without first telling you what the angle of the story is.
  • 07-27-2009, 01:53 PM
    Patricia
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    Early in the video clip was a still picture of what looked like a snake and egg, or something like that. Is that from Dave's webcam?

    I agree that 100,000 huge snakes freely roaming part of the country is a problem. The backlash that will reach our shy 22" baby is what I don't agree with. :(

    Dave, our two girls and I have been watching your hatchlings. It's so great to see! The thought of that used in a negative way makes me :mad:
  • 07-27-2009, 02:05 PM
    Fallout32
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Clementine_3 View Post

    It angered me soooo much that when they showed the death count from "pythons" since 1980 the background picture was a juvie BALL PYTHON. The media doesn't seem to differentiate between burmese pythons and any other python species. "If it's a python it dangerous" is their attitude :colbert:
  • 07-27-2009, 02:27 PM
    mechnut450
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    yeahI be irked they not showing the right images or info when the post the video clip an d what not.
    they did show dave ablino as it was aligning the jaws of albinos and anther breeders clip. The also need ot referto the different snakes they used in the clips.
  • 07-27-2009, 02:50 PM
    BPsRule
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    I watched the clip. Of course, they only talk about the Burmese Pythons and how big they get. No mention about the snakes that don't get that big. If they do decide to use your egg cam you have to make sure they make it clear that those are ball pythons and not the Burmese Pythons that everyone is talking about right now. Someone watching who has no knowledge could say, "Oh my God, there's a guy actually breeding those things that are escaping and killing people!" They need to make it clear in their story that BPs don't get to the size that other pythons can get to, like the ones they showed in that video.
  • 07-27-2009, 02:52 PM
    BPsRule
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fallout32 View Post
    It angered me soooo much that when they showed the death count from "pythons" since 1980 the background picture was a juvie BALL PYTHON. The media doesn't seem to differentiate between burmese pythons and any other python species. "If it's a python it dangerous" is their attitude :colbert:

    Yeah, that angered me too when I saw that. It's the media trying to put a scare into people just to make a story out of it.
  • 07-27-2009, 02:59 PM
    ssballow
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    12 deaths in 30 years? How many Burmese Pythons? Owning one sounds to be no more dangerous than walking across the street. When are they going to outlaw streets? Cars? Walking? It isn't even, statistically, newsworthy!
  • 07-27-2009, 03:02 PM
    panthercz
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    Gee whiz, the media portraying pythons as uncontrollable monsters, who would have ever guessed?! :rolleyes: The media is about nothing but fear mongering and sensationalism. There is no journalistic integrity...

    Big mistake allowing them to use your clip without 1st finding out how they were going to use it, or in what light the report was going to show pythons in.
  • 07-27-2009, 03:08 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    That is apretty awful representation of the burmese python. They are not bloodthirsty killers and they did not establish a population from owners letting them loose.

    Jeez way to scare people away from snakes :/
  • 07-27-2009, 03:09 PM
    camb
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ssballow View Post
    12 deaths in 30 years? How many Burmese Pythons? Owning one sounds to be no more dangerous than walking across the street. When are they going to outlaw streets? Cars? Walking? It isn't even, statistically, newsworthy!

    Exactly! there are around 30 people killed by dogs every year! is it illegal to have a dog?
  • 07-27-2009, 03:11 PM
    littleindiangirl
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    Like Adam Wysocki said, 12 deaths (and not even most from the pet population) from the past 30 years show the seriousness that python keepers give to their hobby.
  • 07-27-2009, 03:38 PM
    Dave763
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    It was streaming video on Ustream. I believe they can use it without my permission.
    They did not ask permission, cuz they don't need it. If they want to use it in a negative way, then I am sorry for that.
    I am not sorry I broadcast the clutches hatching. I will do it again. I know a lot of people liked seeing it.
    They are gonna do the story their way, like it or not. I'm sure there is plenty of video they could have used besides mine.:taz:

    Rant over:)
  • 07-27-2009, 03:46 PM
    Danounet
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    Thanx for those videos! People have never bred BPs yet like me, find those amazing! :D
  • 07-27-2009, 03:47 PM
    CoolioTiffany
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    I bet this would be a good thing to the people who watch it so most realize that not all pythons are bad.. and pythons aren't bad, they just mistake people for a meal but it isn't their fault.

    Let's hope they don't say anything negative..
  • 07-27-2009, 03:58 PM
    CoolioTiffany
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    Lol in the video she was holding a baby albino retic and I'm so sure they were calling it a Burmese. It definitely looked like a baby retic to me:rofl::rofl:
  • 07-27-2009, 03:59 PM
    wolfy-hound
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    The media lies... what a surprise.
    Their 'vet expert' told several lies, and spun it to be in favor of banning snakes. Again, big surprise.
    I'm sorry they didn't use your clip in a positive manner, I like to see the hatching videos too.
  • 07-27-2009, 04:08 PM
    mainbutter
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ssballow View Post
    12 deaths in 30 years? How many Burmese Pythons? Owning one sounds to be no more dangerous than walking across the street. When are they going to outlaw streets? Cars? Walking? It isn't even, statistically, newsworthy!

    And don't forget that those 12 aren't just from large constrictors, that includes venomous reptiles and salmonella!
  • 07-27-2009, 04:11 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    It's a shame that this is what we have come to..the lies the misinformation.. I mean the vet sat there and said the could quote "Eat a cow" currently even the largest flesh eating animal on the planet (great White shark) couldn't do that.

    We all know this is how they operate. Shock sales it has for years.
  • 07-27-2009, 04:15 PM
    knott00
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wolfy-hound View Post
    The media lies... what a surprise.
    Their 'vet expert' told several lies, and spun it to be in favor of banning snakes. Again, big surprise.
    I'm sorry they didn't use your clip in a positive manner, I like to see the hatching videos too.

    The worst part is that they are legally allowed to knowing lie to the public and theres nothing we can do about it. There was a big lawsuite about the media knowingly lying to the public and the judge sided with the media. What a messed up world we live in.
  • 07-27-2009, 05:16 PM
    dr del
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    Hi,

    I filled in their stupid "contact form". :mad:

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by What I said to the idiots
    Hello,

    I would like to complain about the blatant inaccuracies in your story regarding the burmese python problem in the everglades.

    "Pythons Invade The Everglades
    Mon Jul 27 07:34:04 PDT 2009

    Recently a family pet python got loose and killed a toddler and now pythons are taking over the Fla. Everglades. Debbye Turner Bell reports."

    Your vet should be deeply ashamed of her level of knowledge about this issue and the animals involved.

    She said "Twelve people have reportedly been killed by pet pythons since 1984 in just the last three years" (text on screen said 1980 ). Not only is this not english it is blatantly misleading - can someone explain how twelve deaths since 1980 managed to contain the phrase "in the last three years"?

    The eggs shown hatching were infact a completely different species - one that can reach only a maximum size of six feet and is so naturally timid its response to danger is to coil into a tight ball to boot. Hence their name "ball pythons"

    During the instudio segment she was in fact holding yet another completely different species called a reticulated python.

    She stated that a twenty-five foot burmese python could eat a cow - this is utter garbage. A very young calf yes but by the time it would be reffered to as a cow no snake currently on this planet could eat it.

    The explaination that all these snakes were released by irresponsible owners is yet another falsehood I had thought your channel above repeating.

    Is it all just a strange coincidence that the numbers reported in the everglades rose after hurricane andrew destroyed the warehouses of reptile importers and dealers and wrecked the houses and lives of so many responsible and contientious reptile owners?

    As for the current hysteria about the vast range of the continental united states these animals could survive in it is completely fabricated as a casual glance at the winter temperatures of most of the areas mentioned should have shown your vet, assuming she had any knowledge of these reptiles at all.

    I am very, very, dissapointed in your channel for this factually void fluff piece.


    Derek Anderson

    I know it wont do any good whatsoever I just wanted to vent. :oops:


    dr del
  • 07-27-2009, 05:27 PM
    CoolioTiffany
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dr del View Post
    Hi,

    I filled in their stupid "contact form". :mad:



    I know it wont do any good whatsoever I just wanted to vent. :oops:


    dr del

    Lol see I knew she was holding a reticulated python:D
    But all you typed in that letter is DEFINITELY true.
    I can't believe they said a 25 foot python can eat a cow..
    People are always misunderstanding pythons because of the negative comments they have heard from other people and things they watch such as what the vet said in the video. All people hear is false information about snakes. But why? What did snakes ever do to the people who weren't harmed by them? Yes, snakes have harmed people, but it isn't their fault.
  • 07-27-2009, 05:33 PM
    Emilio
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    The media is full of it aren't they!!!! The only positive I saw out of this piece is when the only person with any knowledge of the animals, spoke up and said a dog could potentially be more dangerous than a pet snake.
  • 07-27-2009, 05:42 PM
    Danounet
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Emilio View Post
    The media is full of it aren't they!!!! The only positive I saw out of this piece is when the only person with any knowledge of the animals, spoke up and said a dog could potentially be more dangerous than a pet snake.

    Yes I liked that. When I was younger, I was always scared of the german sheppard my brother adopted. Not so much for the fact that it was a german sheppard, I love dogs, But she had been abused by her previous owners and wasnt very friendly at times.
  • 07-27-2009, 09:43 PM
    HypoPita
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    Oh god!!! Not twelve people since 1980!!!!!! :o
  • 07-27-2009, 10:24 PM
    takagari
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    its CHAOS I TELL YA!!!
  • 07-27-2009, 10:33 PM
    mrshawt
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kaorte View Post
    Thats pretty cool! Hopefully they don't blow this thing up and start spouting lies :/

    Millions of deadly pythons hatch every second!

    Ugh...Awesome though! Maybe people will finally see how cute snakes can be. :gj:

    Crap...looks like I'm too late. Can say we didn't expect it though. :(
  • 07-28-2009, 06:55 PM
    knott00
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    It's too bad that Grant was the only person who knew anything about the animals they were talking about. This is alarmism at its best.
  • 07-28-2009, 07:07 PM
    Vypyrz
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    Wow... at least 12 people died today from cigarettes... hmmm...
  • 07-28-2009, 07:18 PM
    knott00
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Vypyrz View Post
    Wow... at least 12 people died today from cigarettes... hmmm...

    You know, I was thinking the same thing... There are much more worthwhile things to ban if you're really concerned about people's safety. Is it the enviroment you're concerned about? Well then, the factories that manufacture cigarettes produce plenty of polution. Not to mention the valuble land that tobacoo plantations take up that could much better be put to use growing crops that people can actually eat. It seems to me that 12 deaths from pythons in the last 29 years should be the least of our concerns.
  • 07-28-2009, 07:33 PM
    guambomb832
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CoolioTiffany View Post
    Lol in the video she was holding a baby albino retic and I'm so sure they were calling it a Burmese. It definitely looked like a baby retic to me:rofl::rofl:

    Damn it! She beat me to it. But yeah that is a lavender albino retic, it goes to show how the news really likes to scare people and make them stay in their homes.
  • 07-29-2009, 01:43 AM
    jblaze
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    I would have thought that CBS producers knew how to spell "thanx?"
  • 07-29-2009, 02:05 AM
    cinderbird
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by guambomb832 View Post
    Damn it! She beat me to it. But yeah that is a lavender albino retic, it goes to show how the news really likes to scare people and make them stay in their homes.

    im glad im not the only one that looked at that and said "...thats not a burm"
  • 07-29-2009, 08:51 AM
    BPsRule
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by guambomb832 View Post
    it goes to show how the news really likes to scare people and make them stay in their homes.

    Just so people can stay in front of their TVs and keep watching the "news".
  • 07-29-2009, 09:34 AM
    knott00
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BPsRule View Post
    Just so people can stay in front of their TVs and keep watching the "news".

    "Something you're looking at right now could kill you! Tonight at 9!"

    WTF? Why not just tell me what it is so I'm safe, you jeks are putting my life in danger!
  • 07-29-2009, 11:08 AM
    Mike Cavanaugh
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    Walking down the street holding a big snake is a bad idea. While it will get you lots of attention and maybe even be fun, nothing good will ever come of it. Some thing are better off just kept private.

    This can be applied to lots of different things when keeping snakes.

    Sorry they used your webcam for such a story... If I ever had such a inquiry from a news agency, while I would be flattered, I would also ask to see the story before they are allowed to use my copyrighted material.

    Maybe someone more educated on this subject can speak up, but it is my understanding that the second a picture is taken, or a video is recorded, it is automatically copyrighted, and illegal to use without permission.

    But unfortunately that is neither here nor their because you flat out gave them permission to use it for whatever they want in your origional reply.

    I am sorry this happened to you. Hopefully everyone will learn from this.
  • 07-29-2009, 11:33 AM
    Elise.m
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    I think he posted it on one of those sites like youtube where you can just take a video clip off the website and use it. He said something like that in one of his previous posts.
  • 07-29-2009, 11:39 AM
    STEW
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    Pretty sure this is one of the reasons I dont watch the news..... You never know how spun the story really is unless u are well versed on the issue..... Its amazing to see what the media actually does to the storyline when you know the true facts behind it all
  • 07-29-2009, 11:46 AM
    dc4teg
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    poor baby retic in her hands she was shaking it around like a rag doll when she was talking, but i do like how that guy compared the burm to a dog in that its all the fact of responsibility!
  • 07-29-2009, 12:06 PM
    Hulihzack
    Re: CBS News and my egg cam
    Why is it that every time I hear a number of how many Burms are in Florida it's a different number. It kinda makes them look bad. Not that anyone cares how bad THEY look, they're all just terrified of Dave's BP babies -_-. This whole thing is so stupid on so many levels but I'm about ranted out for a few days.
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