Snake owners!

Which snakes are more common? Let's find out :]
*You may also post a pic of your snake if you'd like, I always like to see snakes no matter how they look! They ALL fascinate me, every single one of them. You can also tell me what type of snakes you own, and if you own too many to name, you can just name a few ;].

Which snakes are more common? Let's find out :]. Forgot to make the poll multiple choice. Sorry! If there was a way to fix it, I would definitely.. maybe there is a way.. but I don't know it yet lol. Well, whatever you have the most in your collection choose whatever.

In case you aren't sure what the poll choices mean:

Colubridae- Non-venomous snakes other than Pythons and Boas. Example: King snakes, Corn snakes, Milk snakes, Rat snakes, Garter snakes.

Boidae- Boas. Snakes that use constriction to subdue prey and give live birth. Example: Dumeril's boas, Sand boas, Rainbow boas, Rosy boas, Red Tail boas.

Pythonidae- Pythons. Snakes that use constriction to subdue prey. These snakes lay eggs, and have more teeth than boas. Example: Ball/Royal pythons, Woma pythons, Green Tree pythons, Carpet pythons, Spotted pythons.

Elapidae- Venomous snakes that use venom to subdue prey. These snakes have round pupils and have fangs that do NOT fold back, instead, they stand out. Example: Cobras, Kraits, Mambas, Boomslangs, Taipans.

Viperidae- Venomous snakes that use venom to subdue prey. These snakes have cat-like eyes and their fangs fold back. Example: Rattle snakes, Gaboon vipers, Copper heads, Cotton mouths/Moccasins, Eye lash viper.

Other- Sun beam, Thread, and Blind snakes. The smallest snakes in the world, almost worm-like. These snakes are sometimes mistaken to look like worms.


*You may also post a pic of your snake if you'd like, I always like to see snakes no matter how they look! They ALL fascinate me, every single one of them. You can also tell me what type of snakes you own, and if you own too many to name, you can just name a few ;].

It would be interesting to see actual numbers of each family kept in the US.. I believe there are probably more colubrids kept in the US(total numbers) than any other family.

ball pythons i guess lol
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Originally Posted by mainbutter

It would be interesting to see actual numbers of each family kept in the US.. I believe there are probably more colubrids kept in the US(total numbers) than any other family.

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Ya probably. Every place I go to that sells snakes I ALWAYS see either King snakes, Corn snakes, Milk snakes, or even all of them lol.

I'd like to mention that there are a couple snakes in the Colubridae group that are venomous.

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Originally Posted by Raptor

I'd like to mention that there are a couple snakes in the Colubridae group that are venomous.

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Yes, but it's not really venom, it's in their saliva. Their saliva causes some swelling, or a lot, depending on how allergic the person is to the saliva. I wouldn't necessarly say they are venomous, just because they don't exactly use venom to kill and their saliva does not really kill people. (I'm talking about the venom in the viperidae and elapidae that can cause death in a person)

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Originally Posted by CoolioTiffany

Yes, but it's not really venom, it's in their saliva. Their saliva causes some swelling, or a lot, depending on how allergic the person is to the saliva. I wouldn't necessarly say they are venomous, just because they don't exactly use venom to kill and their saliva does not really kill people. (I'm talking about the venom in the viperidae and elapidae that can cause death in a person)

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Go tell that to a boomslang, one of those get a hold of you and your fingers are going to start rotting off, and hopefully thats the only problem you have and you get away with your life! Don't underestimate some rear fang colubrids some of them are right up there with the worlds most toxic snakes!

O ya and I definately think colubrids are more popular. I myself currently own 6 of them and only 2 boas and 2 pythons.

I'm not sure what you're actually asking for--obviously since this is a BP forum, bp's are going to be common. Are you looking for other snakes people own beside bp's?
If so, I also have 0.1 Western Hognose, 1.0 Eastern blackheaded python, 0.1 woma python, 1.0 borneo short tail python and share custody of 1.0 bci with the Ex.

Here's my blackhead--I LOVE this snake and wish they weren't so expensive (I'd have a house full of them if I could afford it)
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My Woma, another great snake to own. Great temperment and very easy to take care of.
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My new tiny baby Borneo
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l8...000/borneo.jpg

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Yes, but it's not really venom, it's in their saliva. Their saliva causes some swelling, or a lot, depending on how allergic the person is to the saliva. I wouldn't necessarly say they are venomous, just because they don't exactly use venom to kill and their saliva does not really kill people. (I'm talking about the venom in the viperidae and elapidae that can cause death in a person)

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I'm pretty sure that rear fanged colubrids inject venom from venom glands through their rear fangs.. hence the name.

I voted pythons because I have more of them than boas. If I could add boas I would. I think that is going to be a major hangup in this poll, not being able to vote for more than one.

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Originally Posted by mainbutter

I'm pretty sure that rear fanged colubrids inject venom from venom glands through their rear fangs.. hence the name.

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I was always reading that it's in their saliva that kills it's prey. Not really sure if there had been cases of someone getting killed by the saliva/venom though:O

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Originally Posted by CoolioTiffany

I was always reading that it's in their saliva that kills it's prey. Not really sure if there had been cases of someone getting killed by the saliva/venom though:O

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People in Africa get killed all the time by boomslangs which are a tree going rear fanged colubrid that have venom that rivals some of the most deadly snakes in the world. They are ranked up there with puff adders and mambas as one of Africas most feared snake. There are a couple other rear fang colubrids that could knock you on your rear end with with there venom. It may not kill you but their venom could still have some pretty nastey affects.

Stuff like Hognoses (which are rear fanged) haven't been proven to have venom glands as far as I know, so that or some of the other small colubrids may have sparked a toxic saliva rumor.

I have almost all colubrids personally but I like this forum because it's active and I like seeing those crazy new BPs hatching out :)

Colubrids. I see alot of kings and corns.

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Originally Posted by Brewster320

People in Africa get killed all the time by boomslangs which are a tree going rear fanged colubrid that have venom that rivals some of the most deadly snakes in the world. They are ranked up there with puff adders and mambas as one of Africas most feared snake. There are a couple other rear fang colubrids that could knock you on your rear end with with there venom. It may not kill you but their venom could still have some pretty nastey affects.

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I just heard that Boomslangs are venomous, not colubrids? That show Austin Stevens (he takes pics of a Boomslang and stuff) I saw a Boomslang, and it's also considered to be an elapid (round pupils, fangs stand out, venomous). Elapids aren't colubrids. If I remember I think Austin said Boomslangs are elapids. If they are, and they have venom that kills, then I don't think it would be a colubrid. There are colubrids that are rear fang venomous, but they don't really use venom.. they have toxic saliva used to subdue prey that's effective on that food item and depending if the person they bite is badly allergic or not it can cause some swelling. I think I heard Garters being rear fanged, as well as the Hognose.

Look at this video about the Hognose snake. They are rear fang venomous, but it's slightly toxic saliva. This is one of Brian's (BHB) videos on the Western Hognose. It's pretty good, always gotta love his videos. (I've seen every single one!:D)

YouTube - SnakeBytesTV-Last Episode (April Fools)

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Originally Posted by CoolioTiffany

I just heard that Boomslangs are venomous, not colubrids? That show Austin Stevens (he takes pics of a Boomslang and stuff) I saw a Boomslang, and it's also considered to be an elapid (round pupils, fangs stand out, venomous). Elapids aren't colubrids. If I remember I think Austin said Boomslangs are elapids. If they are, and they have venom that kills, then I don't think it would be a colubrid. There are colubrids that are rear fang venomous, but they don't really use venom.. they have toxic saliva used to subdue prey that's effective on that food item and depending if the person they bite is badly allergic or not it can cause some swelling. I think I heard Garters being rear fanged, as well as the Hognose.

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He must've made a mistake boomslangs are infact rear fanged colubrids(although there rear fangs are quite large!) Here a quote from Wikipedia.

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A boomslang (Dispholidus typus) is a relatively small, venomous colubrid snake native to sub-Saharan Africa. It is currently the only species in its genus. Many members of the family Colubridae that are considered venomous are essentially harmless to humans, because they either have small venom glands, relatively weak venom, or an inefficient system for delivery of venom. However, the boomslang is a notable exception in that it has a highly potent venom, which it delivers through large fangs that are located in the rear of the jaw. The venom of the boomslang is primarily a hemotoxin. It disables the blood clotting process and the victim may well die as a result of internal and external bleeding. Other signs and symptoms include: headache, nausea, sleepiness and mental disorders. Because the venom is slow to act, symptoms may not be manifest until many hours after the bite. On the one hand, this provides time for procuring the serum, while on the other hand it may lead victims to underestimate the seriousness of the bite. (Snakes of any species can on occasion fail to inject venom when they bite and after a few hours without ill-effect the victim may fall into the error of supposing that the injury was not serious). The bite can however make the victim feel better a few hours before death and immediately before death the victim will bleed from every orifice in their body. An adult boomslang has 1.6–8 mg of venom. 0.72 mg/kg is sufficient to kill a human in 50% of cases, if the venom reaches a vein.

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Garters from what I hear do infact have venom but its more like that of a gila monster as it seeps into the wound during a bite and not injected through fangs.

I own 4 pythons

1.2 retics
1.0 ball pythons ;)

Considering selling my ball python for another female retic :D

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I just heard that Boomslangs are venomous, not colubrids? That show Austin Stevens (he takes pics of a Boomslang and stuff) I saw a Boomslang, and it's also considered to be an elapid (round pupils, fangs stand out, venomous). Elapids aren't colubrids. If I remember I think Austin said Boomslangs are elapids. If they are, and they have venom that kills, then I don't think it would be a colubrid. There are colubrids that are rear fang venomous, but they don't really use venom.. they have toxic saliva used to subdue prey that's effective on that food item and depending if the person they bite is badly allergic or not it can cause some swelling. I think I heard Garters being rear fanged, as well as the Hognose.

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I believe that the Boiga, Boomslang, and Twig Snake are all Colubrids, not Elapids, and they are all venomous, rear fanged snakes that do use their venom. Either way.

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Originally Posted by CoolioTiffany

Yes, but it's not really venom, it's in their saliva. Their saliva causes some swelling, or a lot, depending on how allergic the person is to the saliva. I wouldn't necessarly say they are venomous, just because they don't exactly use venom to kill and their saliva does not really kill people. (I'm talking about the venom in the viperidae and elapidae that can cause death in a person)

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A brown tree snake is a venomous colubrid that lives in australia and guam and its venom is strong enough to kill children up to 10 years old without medical treatment.

I've got 4 corns and 4 balls, so I'm on the fence. But I gotta believe overall that in captivity Colubrids are more ubiquitous than balls.

Hey Cobweb - I love the black-headed python too! I've looked for them but they don't seem to be very common.