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  • 07-14-2009, 04:35 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Help asap
    my cornsnake i i just got on monday layed a egg today. which is why shes been restless. WHAT AM I TO DO ASAP. i have the room i can get up to 84oF to incubate it and a 6qt tub. but NO incubating medium. ill get picture up soon
  • 07-14-2009, 04:38 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Help asap
  • 07-14-2009, 04:56 PM
    tonkatoyman
    Re: Help asap
    I am dumb when it comes to corns but you can use vermiculite from a garden dept at a big box home supply for BP incubation medium
  • 07-14-2009, 05:14 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Help asap
    i went to hte local pet shot and got a bag of spagnum moss/fir mixture got that wet to the touch but no water dripping and put it in a 6qt tub with hole on side for her to go in and finish laying her eggs. Room temp is 83oF so Should i leave the eggs with mom or take them out once shes done laying.
  • 07-14-2009, 05:19 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Help asap
    http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y14...o/100_2542.jpg

    i gave her a 6qt tub with the stuff moist and put the oen egg in there as well. hope thats the only egg she has in her tiny body.
  • 07-14-2009, 05:54 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Help asap
    well i been talking to Kathy Love on the phone and i got the corn setup in the tub and shes relaxed now that shes in it. her rear is swelling up so another egg is on the way.
  • 07-14-2009, 05:58 PM
    wilomn
    Re: Help asap
    That egg is a slug, it won't hatch.

    She may have more in there which if are not layed in the next day or two could, may not but might, be a problem.

    Sometimes the girls just don't lay them all. Sometimes they'll push out the rest on their own, sometimes some oxytocin will help, sometimes they need to be surgically removed.

    I've had it happen several times.

    Good luck.
  • 07-14-2009, 06:01 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Help asap
    Thanks im still gonna keep the egg in with the others and see if anything happens. she has another at the cloaca swelling up so theres one more coming out shortly. tomorrow afternoon ill take her out and remove the eggs.

    This pisses me off casue shes not big enough for 2 year old female ot have eggs. the guy i got her from swore he didnt put her with another snake. She she was handled like normal. Hope as least one egg is good. Hate for her to go through all this and get nothing out of it.
  • 07-14-2009, 06:03 PM
    wilomn
    Re: Help asap
    Hmmmm, she looks to be in the 30-36" range which is plenty big enough.

    They can lay without ever being with a male too.
  • 07-14-2009, 06:05 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Help asap
    the lay box is a 6qt tub.

    How can she lay eggs and be fertile with no male introduction ever. I wasnt expecting to breed these guys till 2011. Kinda caught me off guard when i cam in the room.
  • 07-14-2009, 06:10 PM
    wilomn
    Re: Help asap
    The one egg you have pictured is INfertile, it will NOT hatch.

    Female snakes can lay infertile eggs, it's not uncommon.
  • 07-14-2009, 06:12 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Help asap
    Egg number 2 is down. and after that one she came out of the lay box
  • 07-14-2009, 06:14 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Help asap
    ill take a better picture of the second one next to first one once shes competly out of lay box
  • 07-14-2009, 06:24 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Help asap
    second one isn't pearly white so thats a slug too. Guess its just the common corn egg laying once mature like chickens
  • 07-14-2009, 06:53 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Help asap
    heres the final picture

    Left egg is 2nd layed right was first
    http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y14...o/100_2544.jpg
  • 07-14-2009, 11:08 PM
    Blue Apple Herps
    Re: Help asap
    Wilomn is correct, that 1st one is infertile. Just throw it away, 2nd one looks infertile, too.

    I would leave her alone for 24 hrs. If you're constantly checking on her, it could be stressing her out and she may be hesitant about dropping more eggs. The eggs will be fine in a humid lay box for 24 hrs, so just leave her alone and check after that period to see if she's laid more.
  • 07-14-2009, 11:12 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Help asap
    Both eggs are slugs. Shes been resting now and no other eggs have came out since then. Shes done laying eggs. This is the most calm i seen her since i got her.
  • 07-15-2009, 09:49 AM
    Blue Apple Herps
    Re: Help asap
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by flameethrower View Post
    Both eggs are slugs. Shes been resting now and no other eggs have came out since then. Shes done laying eggs. This is the most calm i seen her since i got her.

    Its possible she may not be entirely done. Can you see/feel more eggs in her? Sometimes they will drop one or two then a few days later drop the rest. Or they may lay them over the course of a couple of days. I'd still leave the lay box in there for a few more days just to be sure and to keep her comfortable in case she decides to lay some more.
  • 07-15-2009, 09:57 AM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Help asap
    i held her last night and palpated her and felt no more lumps in her at all. so im gonna assume she only had the 2 in her.
  • 07-15-2009, 10:29 AM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Help asap
    I just went to check all the snakes and this is what she was wraped on this morning. I even palpated her and she flattened her body and felt nothing.

    This looks sluged out to me

    http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y14...o/100_2546.jpg
  • 07-15-2009, 11:10 AM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Help asap
    This crap needs to stop isf this is just the common egg laying.I called the previous owner and swore up and down he didnt have her with another snake.

    Right now shes in lay box dropping egg umber 4
  • 07-15-2009, 11:32 AM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Help asap
    Now that i know shes a egg layer is there anyone that can explain how to brumate corns and bring them back out for breeding. I mine as well give it a shot next spring.
  • 07-15-2009, 01:16 PM
    Blue Apple Herps
    Re: Help asap
    Sometimes they will lay an infertile clutch, even if they've never been paired. And corn eggs can be tricky to feel. I would still just leave her be for a day or two and give her peace and quiet to get them all out.

    Lots of info on breeding corns. If you're serious about breeding them, I can't recommend Kathy Love's book. It's a must have. You can get it from Amazon for not much $$
  • 07-15-2009, 01:22 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Help asap
    Kathy Love said shed send the book for $16 when she called.

    But yea so far 4 eggs and looks like one more will be out later today. How many times in her life should i expect these slugs for the hell of it.


    I want to breed corns which is why i got a 1.1 pair of albinos. But the pythons are first since thats what i know and love.

    Oh and Kathy told me that Bill might have me in a Q n A section in the reptile magazine which is cool.

    When i get the corns bigger so i can get larger clutches ill more than likely buy her book to read up on the hibernation cycles.
  • 07-15-2009, 04:28 PM
    Blue Apple Herps
    Re: Help asap
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by flameethrower View Post
    But yea so far 4 eggs and looks like one more will be out later today. How many times in her life should i expect these slugs for the hell of it.

    I've had it happen twice, but with the same girl. The two years I didn't breed her, she laid slugs. She was just always primed and ready to breed, even if I wasn't. So I don't have an answer as far as if she'll do it again.

    Quote:

    When i get the corns bigger so i can get larger clutches ill more than likely buy her book to read up on the hibernation cycles.
    Her book also has tons of other great info as well. Even if you're not breeding for a while, I still think its a must have for anyone who owns a cornsnake. Whether you own 1 or 235, its awesome. I've been keeping corns for 16 years now, and I still reference it several times a year.
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