Can you list bp morphs and sub morphs?

My girlfriend (ms.aff19802) asked how many morphs there were an i could only name of the top of my head

Pastel-lemon grazanni black
pied - and any thing combo
spider
pin
spinner -
blast
bee - many versons
ghost
yellowbelly

How many can you name or just add to the list...

Roughly 60+/- base mutations

To many to list!

The are many base morphs and even more combo morphs out there.

Base Morphs
Pastel
Spider
Pinstripe
Lesser
Mojave
Butter
Ghost
Clown
Albino
Lavender Albino
Caramel Albino
Enchi
Chocolate
Sable
Cinnamon
Black Pastel
Desert
Vanilla

Thats just what I could rattle off the top of my head for base morphs.

Clown
Carmel Albino
Ghost (Many)
Purple Passion
Vanilla
Zebra Bee
Pied
Mojave
Inferno
Yellow Belly
Woma
Axanthic
Pastel
Lesser
Black/Blue Eyed Leucistic
Enchi
Cajun
Cinnamon
Opal

Theres way more but thats all my brain can think of!

Daniel

Lets just put it this way with 60 mutations and no supers involved there are 4.8 million different combos that can be made with out repeating or doubling up on a morph..:D

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

Lets just put it this way with 60 mutations and no supers involved there are 4.8 million different combos that can be made with out repeating or doubling up on a morph..:D

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Let me get out my pad and paper out here.... 60 x 59 x 58 x 57; ah forget this I'll take your word on the 4.8 million :D

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Originally Posted by Spaniard

Let me get out my pad and paper out here.... 60 x 59 x 58 x 57; ah forget this I'll take your word on the 4.8 million :D

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Sorry miss typed..it should be 8.3 Billion

This is not my list, but rather something I got from the net:

ALBINO MORPHS
Recessive color mutation
ALBINO CLOWN = ALBINO X CLOWN
ALBINO GHOST = ALBINO X HYPO
ALBINO PASTEL = ALBINO X PASTEL
ALBINO SPIDER = ALBINO X SPIDER
STRIPED ALBINO = GENETIC STRIPE X ALBINO
SNOW BALL = ANANTHIC /ALBINO X ANANTHIC /ALBINO

AXANTHIC MORPHS
Recessive color mutation
AXANTHIC PASTEL = AXANTHIC X PASTEL
SNOWBALL = AXANTHIC / ALBINO X AXANTHIC / ALBINO
AXANTHIC BLACK PASTEL = AXANTHIC X BLACK PASTEL

BANANA BALL/ CORAL GLOW/ WHITE SMOKE
Co-dominant color mutation
BANANA CLOWN = BANANA X CLOWN
CORAL BEE – CORAL GLOW X SPIDER
CORAL PASTEL / BANANA PASTEL = CORAL /BANANA X PASTEL

BANDED/REDUCED PATTERN/TIGER
Dominant, co-dominant pattern mutation
Reduced banded albinos = banded x albino
Zebra pastels = banded x pastel

BLACK BACK / BLACK STRIPE
Dominant, co-dominant pattern mutation
Trait is not reliable has not been proven to be genetically inheritable.
Compatible with:
ALBINOS
PASTELS
HYPOS

BLACK HEADED BALL MORPHS
Dominant, co-dominant pattern & color mutation
New mutation, well established back striping with good side blushing and clear belly. It is unknown if there is a super form.

BLACK PASTEL / SUPER BLACK PASTEL
Co-dominant and pattern mutation / Dominant color and pattern mutation
AXANTHIC BLACK PASTEL = AXANTHIC X BLACK PASTEL
BLACK PASTEL PEWTER = BLACK PASTEL X PASTEL JUNGLE
SUPER BLACK PASTEL = BLACK PASTEL X BLACK OR CINNAMON PASTEL
SILVER BULLET = BLACK PASTEL X PEWTER
SILVER STREAK / SUPER PASTEL PEWTER = PEWTER X PASTEL

BURGUNDY BALL MORPHS
Recessive color mutation
These are reddish chocolate color on a yellowish-brown background. They display no black and the extreme form is reddish. Often they are referred to as chocolate hypos. Breeders recognize their potential, but they remain a mystery.

BUTTERBALL MORPHS
Dominant color mutation
HYPO BUTTERS = BUTTER X HYPO
PASTEL BUTTERS = BUTTER X PASTEL
BUTTER BEE / SPUTTER BALL = BUTTER X SPIDER

CALICO/SUGAR/WHITE-SIDED BUBBLEGUM
Co-dominant color and pattern mutation
Calico ball pythons have patches of white scales emerging from their bellies and along the sides. While they are young, they contain areas of pink; however, as the snake matures those areas turn white. It is believed that there is more than one line of Calicos. There is a continued debate among breeders as to whether this is one, or more traits
existing co-dominantly. More breeding is required to confirm or disprove this debate.

CAMOUFLAGE / SUPER CHOCOLATE BALL
Co-dominant color and pattern mutation
The Camouflage Ball is the Super form of the Chocolate Ball. There is one in existence at this time, but hidden.

CARAMEL ALBINO / AXANTHIC ALBINO
Recessive color mutation
T+ Tyrosinase positive albino. The common Albino is T-
PASTEL CARAMEL = PASTEL X CARAMEL ALBINO
CARAMEL GLOW = HYPO / CARAMEL ALBINO X HYPO /CARAMEL ALBINO

CINNAMON PASTEL / SUPER CINNAMON MORPHS
Co-dominant color and pattern mutation / dominant pattern & color mutation
CINNABEE = CINNAMON PASTEL X SPIDER
SILVER BULLET = PEWTER PASTE. X CINNAMON PASTEL
STERLING PASTEL = PEWTER PASTEL X PASTEL JUNGLE
PEWTER PASTEL = CINNAMON PASTEL X PASTEL JUNGLE
SUPER CINNAMON = CINNAMON PASTEL X CINNAMON PASTEL
CINNAMON YELLOW BELLY = CINNAMON PASTEL X YELLOWBELLY/HET IVORY
THE SUPER FORM OF THE CINNAMON PASTEL OR BLACK PASTEL IS A
PATTERN-LESS, ONE-COLORED, BLACKISH DARK BROWN BALL PYTHON

CLOWN BALL PYTHON
Recessive pattern and color mutation
ALBINO CLOWN = ALBINO X CLOWN
PASTEL CLOWN = PASTEL X CLOWN
BANANA CLOWN = BANANA X CLOWN

DESERT GHOST BALL PYTHONS
Recessive color mutation
No designer morphs created with this mutation to my knowledge (pls update if you have current info).

ENCHI PASTEL/ ENCHI SUPER PASTEL
Co-dominant color and pattern mutation / Dominant color and pattern mutation
Not your regular pastel; a totally separate mutation with reduced patterns, bright yellow color on the sides and lots of blushing along their backs and sides.
Stinger bee = enchi pastel x spider
Super enchi pastel – enchi pastel x enchi pastel

FIREBALL /HET BLACK-EYED LEUCISTIC
Co-dominant color mutation
Fireball is the visual heterozygous form of the Super fire/black-eyed leucistic often referred as a co-dominant hypo. They have a hypo looking yellow color and a very distinct blushed out head marking.

BLACK-EYED LEUCISTIC / SUPER FIREBALL
Dominant color mutation
The Super Fire or Black-eyed Leucistic is the homozygous or Super form of the Fireball/Heterozygous black-eyed luecistic (lucy)
The Super Fire is an almost totally white snake with black eyes and red pupils.

GENETIC STRIPE MORPHS
Recessive pattern mutation
STRIPED ALBINO = GENETIC STRIPE X ALBINO
STRIPED PASTEL = GENETIC STRIPE X PASTEL

GRANITE BALL MORPHS
Co-dominant pattern mutation
EBONY BALL = YELLOW BELLY X GRANITE
GRANITE MOJAVE = MOJAVE X GRANITE
GRANITE PASTEL = PASTEL X GRANITE

HYPO BALL PYTHONS
Hypo/Ghost: Recessive color mutation
ALBINO GHOST = ALBINO X HYPO
HYPO MOJAVE = MOJAVE X HYPO
PASTEL HYPO = PASTEL X HYPO
HYPO PINSTRIPE = PINSTRIPE X HYPO
HYPO BUTTER = BUTTER BALL X HYPO
HONEY BEE / HYPO SPIDER = SPIDER X HYPO
CARAMEL GLOW = CARAMEL ALBINO X HYPO
SUPER PASTEL HYPO = PASTEL X PASTEL X HYPO

IVORY / YELLOW BELLY / SUPER GOBLIN
Dominant color mutation
The Ivory is the homozygous-super form of the Yellowbelly/ het Ivory, sometimes called Goblin. Ivories are white snakes with thin yellow stripes on their backs. They are similar to the Lucies.

LAVENDER ALBINO
Recessive color mutation
LAVENDER ALBINO PIED = LAVENDER ALBINO X PIEBALD

LESSER PLATINUM BALL
Co-dominant pattern and color mutation
KING PIN = LESSER PLATINUM X PINSTRIPE
LESSER BEE = LESSER PLATINUM X SPIDER
LESSER HYPO = LESSER PLATINUM X HYPO
LESSER WOMA = LESSER PLATINUM X WOMA
QUEEN BEE = LESSER PLATINUM X SPIDER X PASTEL
BLUE-EYED LEUCISTIC = LESSER PLATINUM X PLATINUM,
LESSER PLATINUM X LESSER PLATINUM,
LESSER PLATINUM X PHANTOM AND
LESSER PLATINUM X MOJAVE
LESSER PASTELS = LESSER PLATINUM X PASTEL (ALSO BLOND AND LEMON)
*PLATINUM BALL (PLATTY DADDY)
Dominant color and pattern mutation
BLUE-EYED LEUCISTIC = PLATINUM X LESSER PLATINUM
LESSER PLATINUM = PLATINUM X NORMAL

Leucistic Morphs (PLEASE UPDATE)

MOJAVE / SUPER MOJAVE MORPHS
Co-dominant color and pattern mutation / Dominant color and pattern mutation
HYPO MOJAVE = HYPO X MOJAVE
SPIDER MOJAVE = SPIDER X MOJAVE
GRANITE MOJAVE = GRANITE X MOJAVE
(PASTAVE) PASTEL MOJAVE = PASTEL X MOJAVE
CRYSTAL BALL = ABERRANT FEMALE X MOJAVE
YELLOW BELLY MOJAVE = YELLOW BELLY X MOJAVE
BLUE-EYED LEUCISTIC =MOJAVE X LESSER PLATINUM
BLUE-EYED LEUCISTIC = MOJAVE X RUSSO LINE HET LEUISTIC
SUPER MOJAVE / BLUE-EYED LEUCISTIC = MOJAVE X MOJAVE
STRIPED HARLEQUIN MOJAVE = STRIPED HARLEQUIN X MOJAVE
HYPO SUPER MOJAVE = HET HYPO SUPER MOJAVE X HET HYPO SUPER MOJAVE

PASTEL JUNGLE / SUPER PASTEL
Co-dominant color mutation / Dominant color mutation
ALBINO PASTEL = PASTEL X ALBINO
BANANA PASTEL/PASTEL CORAL GLOW = PASTEL X BANANA/CORAL GLOW
BUMBLE BEE = PASTEL X SPIDER
CARAMEL PASTEL = PASTEL X CARAMEL ALBINO
PASTEL CLOWN = PASTEL X CLOWN
PASTEL HYPO = PASTEL X HYPO
PASTEL LESSER PLATINUM = PASTEL X LESSER PLATINUM
PASTEL MOJAVE = PASTEL X MOJAVE
PASTEL PIED = PASTEL X PIEBALD
PASTEL PINSTRIPE/LEMON BLAST = PASTEL X PINSTRIPE
PASTEL SPIDER = PASTEL X SPIDER
PASTEL WOMA = PASTEL X WOMA
PASTEL YELLOW BELLY = PASTEL X YELLOW BELLY/HET IVORY
PEWTER = PASTEL X CINNAMON PASTEL OR BLACK PASTEL
SUPER PASTEL = PASTEL X PASTEL
SUPER PASTEL HYPO = SUPER PASTEL X HYPO
WANNA BEE SPIDER = PASTEL X SPIDER X LESSER PLATINUM
ZEBRA PASTEL = PASTEL X REDUCED PATTERN

PHANTHOM / SUPER PHANTOM
Co-dominant color and pattern mutation / Dominant color and pattern mutation
BLUE-EYED LEUCISTICS = PHANTOM X LESSER PLATINUM
PHANTOM YELLOW BELLY(GOBLIN) = PHANTOM X YELLOW BELLY
PHANTOM PASTEL = PHANTOM X PASTEL
SUPER PHANTOM = PHANTOM X PHANTOM
SUPER PHANTOM GOBLIN = PHANTOM GOBLIN X PHANTOM GOBLIN

PIEBALD MORPHS
Recessive color and pattern mutation
LAVENDER ALBINO PIED = LAVENDER ALBINO X PIEBALD
PASTEL PIED = PASTEL JUNGLE X PIEBALD
SPIDER PIED = SPIDER X PIEBALD

PINSTRIPE MORPHS
Dominant color and pattern mutation
Chocolate pinstripe = pinstripe x chocolate
Kingpin = pinstripe x lesser platinum
Lemon blast = pinstripe x lemon pastel
Pinstripe hypos = pinstripe x hypo
Spinner ball = pinstripe x spider
Spinner blast = pinstripe x spider x pastel

HETEROZYGOUS RED AXANTHIC/RED AXANTHIC
Co-dominant color and pattern mutation / Dominant color and pattern mutation.
Pastel het red Axanthic = pastel x het red ananthic
Red axanthix = het red Axanthic x het red axanthic

RUSSO LINE MORPHS
Referred to as High yellow lemon balls these are the Russo line of visible het blue-eyed leucistics. They have a high yellow color with a lot of lateral blushing and a clear white belly devoid of markings.
*RUSSO LINE HET LEUCISTIC
Co-dominant color mutation
BLUE-EYED LEUCISTIC/WHITE DIAMOND = HET LEUCISTIC X HET LEUCISTIC

*BLUE-EYED LEUCISTIC = HET LEUCISTIC X MOJAVE RUSSO LINE BLUE-EYED LEUCISTIC
Dominant color mutation

SABLE / SUPER SABLE MORPHS
Co-dominant color mutation / Dominant color mutation
The sable trait is the only recognized and known genetically inheritable hypermelanistic mutation. Sables are visible heterozygous Balls and the Super sable is the homozygous form of this trait.

SPIDER MORPHS
Dominant color and pattern
ALBINO SPIDER = ALBINO X SPIDER
BUMBLE BEE = SPIDER X PASTEL
BUTTER BEE= SPIDER X BUTTERBALL
CINNABEE = SPIDER X CINNAMON
CORAL BEE = SPIDER X PASTEL X CORAL GLOW
FADED ALBINO SPIDER = SPIDER X FADED ALBINO
HONEY BEE = SPIDER X HYPO
KILLER BEE = SPIDER X SUPER PASTEL
LESSER SPIDER = SPIDER X LESSER PLATINUM
PIED SPIDER = SPIDER X PIEBALD
QUEEN BEE = SPIDER X PASTEL X LESSER PLATINUM
SPIDER MOJAVE = SPIDER X MOJAVE
SPIDER FIRE = SPIDER X FIREBALL
SPIDER PIED = SPIDER X PIEBALD
SPINNER WOMA = SPIDER X WOMA
SPINNER BALL = SPIDER X PINSTRIPE
WANNA BEE = SPIDER X PASTEL X WOMA
YELLOW BELLY SPIDER = SPIDER X YELLOW BELLY

SPOT NOSE / SUPER SPOT NOSE = POWER BALL
Co-dominant pattern mutation / Dominant pattern mutation
The Spot-nose has a jungle type pattern. The head is blushed and there is a large yellow spot on the rostral scales
SUPER SPOT-NOSE = SPOT NOSE X SPOT NOSE

THUNDER /VANILLA BALL
Co-dominant color mutation
Thunder Balls are the visible heterozygous forum of the lightening or Super Vanilla Ball

LIGHTENING /SUPER VANILLA BALL
Dominant color mutation
The Lightening or Super Vanilla Ball is the homozygous form of the Thunder or Vanilla Ball.

LIGHTENING/SUPER VANILLA = THUNDER/VANILLA X THUNDER VANILLA
HYPO SUPER VANILLA = VANILLA X HYPO

WOMA BALL MORPHS
Dominant or co-dominant pattern mutation
Womas have reduced patterns, faded head markings, yellow on their upper lips and clear bellies. The Super Woma is considered to be the Pearl Ball.
PEARL = WOMA X WOMA
WANNA BEE = WOMA X SPIDER X PASTEL
WOMA LESSER = WOMA X LESSER PLATINUM
WOMA PASTEL = WOMA X PASTEL
WOMA SPIDER = WOMA X SPIDER

YELLOW BELLY / HETEROZYGOUS IVORY / GOBLIN
Co-dominant pattern mutation
EBONY = YELLOW BELLY X GRANITE
FIRE YELLOW BELLY = YELLOW BELLY X FIRE BALL
IVORY = YELLOW BELLY X YELLOW BELLY
MOJAVE YELLOW BELLY = YELLOW BELLY X MOJAVE
PHANTOM YELLOW BELLY = YELLOW BELLY X PHANTOM
SUPER STRIPE = YELLOW BELLY X ABERRANT STRIPE
SUPER PHANTOM YELLOW BELLY = PHANTOM YELLOW BELLY X PHANTOM
YELLOW BELLY
YELLOW BELLY SPIDER = YELLOW BELLY X SPIDER
YELLOW BELLY PASTEL = YELLOW BELLY X PASTEL
YELLOW BELLY SUPER PASTEL = YELLOW BELLY X PASTEL X PASTEL
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recessive morphs bred together will produce double hets that look Normal....

If you breed the double hets together there is 1 in 16 chance of producing the double morph.

with 60+- base mutations, taking both homozygous and heterozygous morphs into account, there should be 120 factorial possible combinations.. right?

By the way, black pastel is not a form of pastel. It's allelic with cinnamon, instead.

Pastels, or "pastel jungles" come in a variety of subtle color variations such as lemon, blonde, etc.

I know there are a ton of base morphs, but I don't know them all. It's fun to see how many I can remember, though...

Pastel jungle (blonde, lemon)
Black Pastel
Cinnamon
Mojave
Lesser Platinum
Russo
Hypomelanistic (Ghost--orange, yellow, green)
Albino
Caramel Albino
Lavender Albino
Piebald
Axanthic
Banana/Whitesmoke
Pinstripe
Super Stripe
Calico/Sugar
Genetic Stripe
Spider
Woma
Tiger
Fire
"Daddy" gene (an unexpressed gene unless paired with the right morphs--found in the original Platinum, carried by lessers and lesser sibs).
"Hidden" gene (an unexpressed gene unless paired with the right morphs--found in soulsuckers, carried by womas).
IMG (a gene that causes odd melanin variations over the course of a snake's life).

Only 24! Clearly I fail. I remember seeing others, but I can't remember their names...

I thought I was getting the hang of this genetics thing now its time to get back to the drawing board... I seen that list an all i could say is DAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Old post, but lots of morphs here : www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/

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Originally Posted by aff19802

My girlfriend (ms.aff19802) asked how many morphs there were an i could only name of the top of my head

Pastel-lemon grazanni black
pied - and any thing combo
spider
pin
spinner -
blast
bee - many versons
ghost
yellowbelly

How many can you name or just add to the list...

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Black pastels are not a pastel line. Pastel lines are all compatible with each other, while black pastels are compatible with cinnamons. Pastel lines are VPI, Graziani, Ruppel, Bell, Lemon (NERD), Blond Matrix, etc., etc.


Here is a partial list from my website.

Simple Recessive mutations

Albino
Axanthic
Caramel Albino
Clown
Genetic Stripe
Ghost/Hypomelanistic
Lavendar Albino
Piebald
Toffee Ball

Co-dominant mutations

Banana (Coral Glow)
Black Pastel
Butter
Calico
Champagne
Cinnamon
Enchi (Enchi Pastel)
Fire
Goblin
Granite
Het Red Axanthic
Lesser Platinum
Lori Ball
Mojave
Mystic
Pastel
Phantom
Red Stripe
Sable
Spector
Special
Spotnose
Sulfur
Vanilla (Thunder)
Woma
Yellow Belly

Dominant Mutations

Banded (genetic)
Black Back (genetic)
Pinstripe
Spider
Wild Type (Normal)

Super Co-dominants - Homozygous Co-doms

Super Pastel (Opal)
Super Cinnamon
Super Black Pastel
Pearl (Super Woma)
Super Enchi
Super Vanilla (Lightning)
Super Granite
Super Calico
Blue Eyed Leucistic (BEL)
Super Mojave, Super Lesser, Super Butter, Super Vin Russo
Any combination of the BEL complex snakes
Black Eyed Leucistic (Super Fire, Super Sulfur)
Ivory (Super Yellow Belly, Super Goblin)
Red Axanthic
Super Lori Ball
Super Phantom
Super Sable
Super Special
Powerball (Super Spotnose)

Combo/Designer Morphs (Just getting started here)

Bumble bee
Pewter
Black Pewter
Pastel Yellow Belly
Pastave
Wannabee
Lesser Bee
Queen Bee
Silver Streak
Silver Bullet
Cinnacal
Pastel Calico
Enchi Lesser
Yellow Belly Mojave
Yellow Belly Sulfur Mojave
Super Stripe
Crystal
Cinnamon Albino
Pewter Albino
Mimosa
Champin
King Pin
Lemon Blast
Platinum (Platty Daddy)
Snow
Spinner
Spinner Blast
Firefly
Tiger
Pumpkin Pied
Pastel Piebald
Panda Pied
Pied Clown
Axanthic Pied
Super Black Pastel Albino
POG
SPOG
Mystic Potion
Mystic Mojave
Graphite Ivory

1,000s more...

Been a long time since I had any type of math but I think there should only be 1830 possible combinations when each is also allowed to breed with it's type, nowhere near in the millions with only 60 types. Maybe I'm wrong though...

If you have a snake with 50 co-dom genes in it, you would have to say 2 ^ 50 to find to amount of outcome when bred to a normal.

And that amount is big ;)

Yes but you are looking 60 snakes breeding in pairs. 1 snake breeds to 60 snakes = 60. You have 60 different snakes breeding to 60 snakes = 60 x 60. Not only that but for every iteration you have to remove one for the set that was previously done in the last iteration. It has to be different than number combinations. I think it's a little different than a 2 digit number combination which results in many many many possibilities. Now if you start looking at combo morphs with up to 60 combos bred to 60 combos then your numbers could get way up there.

Yeah, but can you name them all in reverse alphabetical order standing on one foot and touching the tip of your nose?

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Yeah, but can you name them all in reverse alphabetical order standing on one foot and touching the tip of your nose?

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:8: you funny

http://www.snake-zone.com/genetics/list/

http://imageevent.com/livingartrepti...lpythonsmorphs

because I like arguing math:

My old post about !120 possible combinations given 60 base morphs is wrong.. I assumed !(2 x number of base morphs), given combinations for both heterozygous and homozygous expressions of the genes.. but that would only be correct if an animal could be both het and homo for the same morph (duh im stupid)

let's take a look at possible combinations if only one morph existed. Lets do albino.
normal
het albino
albino
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3 possible combinations
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let's take a look at possible combinations if just 2 morphs existed. For this example, I'll pick cinny and albino.

possible combinations:

normal
cinny (het for cinny gene)
super cinny (homo for cinny gene)
het albino
albino
cinny het albino
cinny albino
super cinny het albino
super cinny albino
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9 possible combinations
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again with 3 morphs: cinny, albino, and pastel

normal
cinny
super cinny
het albino
albino
pastel
super pastel
cinny het albino
cinny albino
cinny pastel
cinny super pastel
cinny pastel het albino
cinny pastel albino
cinny super pastel het albino
cinny super pastel albino
super cinny pastel
super cinny super pastel
super cinny het albino
super cinny albino
super cinny pastel het albino
super cinny pastel albino
super cinny super pastel het albino
super cinny super pastel albino
pastel het albino
pastel albino
super pastel het albino
pastel albino

Did I get them all?
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27 possible combinations
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Interesting.. this looks like it is going up by powers of 3..
Gawd it has been too long since I did any enumerative combinatorics, I'm busting my head right now to solve and prove how many possible combinations there are with 60 base morphs.. lol i'm such a nerd

(number of possible ways a gene can express itself)^(number of genes)???

a gene can either be expressed as heterozygous, homozygous, or not expressed at all

3^(number of genes)

hmmmmm
Must..prove...WHY..

I've got it.

You can model the morph genes contained in a ball python as such:

Imagine a combination lock, with digits labeled as follows:
(N),(N-1)...(2),(1), where N is the number of known base morphs in ball pythons

Label each morph its own distinct number, for example, pastel=1, fire=2, albino=3

Each digit can be either 0, 1, or 2, implying a gene is not expressed, heterozygous, or homozygous.

We can then describe the morph genetics of a particular snake by assigning them a multi-digit base 3 number.

A normal would be described with the multi-digit number 0,0,0,0..(0 repeating),0,0,0
A pastel would be described as 0,0,0,0..(0 repeating),0,0,1
An albino super pastel would be described as 0,0,0,0..(0r repeating),2,0,2

This base 3 combination lock N digits long is able to count all the from 0000..0 to 2222..2
Therefore the number of possible distinct numbers is 3^N.

mathpwned. A bottle of port helped, so this may not be as clean as I would have liked otherwise ;)

This is an incomplete model, but close enough to at least enumerate the number of possible combinations closely, because I am making these assumptions: I am considering all pastels the "same" gene, all BEL complex genes the "same" gene, cinny and black pastel as the "same" gene. Dominant genes such as pinstripe are allowed to be considered both heterozygous and homozygous, though visually indistinct.

This thread seems to be dead but I will give the base morphs a shot....

albino
lavender albino
caramel albino
butter
cinnamon
pastel
fire
sable
phantom (mystic)
special
russo
mojave
lesser
pinstripe
spider
labrynth
toffee
champagne
orange dream
desert
desert ghost
orange, yellow,green, butterscotch, burgundy ghost.....
pied
clown
vanilla
chocolate
ultramelanistic
banana
special
hypermelanistic
reduced pattern
enchi
woma
axanthic
.............thats enough for now haha too late for this :rolleyes: