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  • 04-20-2009, 02:53 PM
    grammie
    baby isn't eating
    We got a baby (probably late 08) sinaloan in January. She was eating frozen pinks with no problem, but she hasn't eaten in 4 weeks now. The other two we got at the same time are doing wonderfully. Is she young enough that I need to worry?
  • 04-20-2009, 03:05 PM
    Neal
    Re: baby isn't eating
    Have you started to notice any weight loss or decrease of activity? If so how bad? Also are you're conditions in the range of what they should be?
  • 04-20-2009, 03:34 PM
    grammie
    Re: baby isn't eating
    conditions are just right, all three are set up the same. She's climbing her vines at times so she's not inactive. She isn't growing like the others (but they are eating....)
  • 04-20-2009, 04:01 PM
    Neal
    Re: baby isn't eating
    As long as she's not showing weight loss and all that I would just keep offering once a week, if she doesn't eat in 2 weeks then maybe I would take more drastic measure's. Do you feed her in her enclosure or seperate?
  • 04-20-2009, 04:12 PM
    grammie
    Re: baby isn't eating
    seperate. If she doesn't eat today, I will try in tank.
  • 04-20-2009, 04:24 PM
    Neal
    Re: baby isn't eating
    Before you try today, try something new perhaps, get a brown paper bag from the store, put him in with the mouse. Let him be for about 15-30 mins, then check up on him. That's a trick I use for problem feeders, and it often works.
  • 04-20-2009, 04:28 PM
    grammie
    Re: baby isn't eating
    well, she's already in with one, trying to feed live today. But if she doesn't eat, I'll try this in 4 days. thanks so much!!! I have to go to work, or I'd move them both now.
  • 04-21-2009, 02:38 PM
    grammie
    Re: baby isn't eating
    well, she didn't eat. I weighed her and one of the others and she weighs 10gr and the other 20gr. (as best I can get them to stay still and let the scale settle)
  • 04-21-2009, 02:48 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: baby isn't eating
    Alright we need pictures of your setup and everything.

    How is she kept tank/tub
    temps
    how your measuring temps and humidity
    how many hides
    type of bedding

    When ever having problem feeders ALWAYS drop down to a tub for a while to get them eating again and feed in the enclosure/tub. This makes them feel secure by recognizing the smells around him/her and willing to eat.

    and for colubrids i feed every 5 days for a year slightly larger meals as they digest 10 times faster than the average boa and python.

    DONT OFFER HER FOOD AGAIN TILL SUNDAY NIGHT. and offer it when its dark use a flash light to see.
  • 04-21-2009, 02:53 PM
    wilomn
    Re: baby isn't eating
    You may want to get a fecal done too. Sounds like yours has got some nasties inside.

    Pics would help.
  • 04-21-2009, 02:55 PM
    grammie
    Re: baby isn't eating
    I can move her to a tub before I leave for work. What size, 6 qt? Her temps are about 72 on cool, about 80 on warm, I measure them with a temp gun. Room temp about 75. Her bedding is aspen and she has 2 small hides with loads of vines taking up the vertical space (10 gallon tank). Am more than willing to move her to a tub for now (or ever if it gets her eating) And while I did feed her in the daytime yesterday, I do have the room totally dark. Doesn't matter to the others, but maybe that's one thing.
  • 04-21-2009, 02:57 PM
    grammie
    Re: baby isn't eating
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wilomn View Post
    You may want to get a fecal done too. Sounds like yours has got some nasties inside.

    Pics would help.

    Will try to get pics in the morning, am leaving for work in just a few. I will get a fecal, but doesn't it have to be fresh? There's nothing to test right now.
  • 04-21-2009, 03:01 PM
    wilomn
    Re: baby isn't eating
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by grammie View Post
    Will try to get pics in the morning, am leaving for work in just a few. I will get a fecal, but doesn't it have to be fresh? There's nothing to test right now.

    You'd be surprised what's just sitting in those little intestines waiting for a gentle squeeze to release them.

    If you get poop and can't get to the vet put it in a baggie and then put that in the frige. It'll keep a couple days if needed.

    I'm thinking it probably picked up something from one of the mouses.

    You could bump your hotspot up 6 or 8 degrees too.
  • 04-21-2009, 03:24 PM
    grammie
    Re: baby isn't eating
    if one has it, do they all? Unfortunately, I've fed them all in the same tub (not thinking.....) but on the up side, I might could get a sample from one of them. Vet is on the way to work.
  • 04-21-2009, 03:45 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: baby isn't eating
    No internal parasites are not contagious. Only can be transferred if one snake were to be house with another and came in contact of the infected poop, but then that's pushing it.

    6qt will be fine. just use small water so u can get 2 hides in there if not one will be just fine as well.

    youll be sticking with tubs trust Us when we way its EASIER all around 100%
  • 04-21-2009, 03:53 PM
    grammie
    Re: baby isn't eating
    okay, she's in the tub, with water and her favorite hide. Will try again Sunday. Thanks all!!!
  • 04-21-2009, 04:02 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: baby isn't eating
    No problem.

    Be sure you have air holes on the sides to keep humidity right and for breathing. Seems dumb to remind but some ppl dont put holes
  • 04-21-2009, 04:10 PM
    grammie
    Re: baby isn't eating
    I had them, it's what I got for her before we got her.
  • 04-21-2009, 04:15 PM
    wilomn
    Re: baby isn't eating
    My thinking was that a parasite or bacteria could have been picked up from the mice. The others may or may not be harboring the same, if in fact, she is.

    If she poops in the water, save it for the vet.
  • 04-22-2009, 01:33 AM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: baby isn't eating
    When getting a fecal done you need to get it to the vet withing 48 hours and DO NOT FREEZE IT. put in a ziplock and in fridge till you take it in.
  • 04-22-2009, 01:52 AM
    wilomn
    Re: baby isn't eating
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by flameethrower View Post
    No internal parasites are not contagious. Only can be transferred if one snake were to be house with another and came in contact of the infected poop, but then that's pushing it.

    6qt will be fine. just use small water so u can get 2 hides in there if not one will be just fine as well.

    youll be sticking with tubs trust Us when we way its EASIER all around 100%

    I missed this one earlier.

    Internal parasites ARE transferable from one snake to another through several methods.

    In this instance, knowing what little we do, comparing that with what little I know, I still say fecal, keep warm, and see what the results are. If you vet wants to dose it with flagyl profilactically I'd go for that too. Couldn't hurt.
  • 04-22-2009, 02:01 AM
    grammie
    Re: baby isn't eating
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wilomn View Post
    If you vet wants to dose it with flagyl profilactically I'd go for that too. Couldn't hurt.

    Is that something I could do for all of them?
  • 04-22-2009, 10:52 AM
    wilomn
    Re: baby isn't eating
    You could. It won't hurt them if they're healthy and it's not only anti-parasitic, it's an appetite stimulant.

    Where's the pics Woman?
  • 04-22-2009, 12:16 PM
    grammie
    Re: baby isn't eating
    whatcha want pics of hon? I moved her to a tub. you speak, I'll jump :)
  • 04-22-2009, 12:20 PM
    wilomn
    Re: baby isn't eating
    Just the snake and its set up. Like to have visuals when possible.

    thanks
  • 04-22-2009, 12:48 PM
    grammie
    Re: baby isn't eating
    here is her original home, minus her favorite hide and water bowl. UTH, screen lid.

    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...6/dscf6035.jpg

    her new digs

    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...6/dscf6031.jpg

    my baby Abby

    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...6/dscf6030.jpg
  • 04-22-2009, 12:50 PM
    wilomn
    Re: baby isn't eating
    She looks fine. Sinaloans are not given to fat, as a rule.

    When was her last shed? You may have posted it but I've forgotten if you did.
  • 04-22-2009, 12:54 PM
    grammie
    Re: baby isn't eating
    it's been three weeks since her shed. Thanks for your help. Hoping that she will eat now that I've moved her. She's one of the granddaughters snakes and I don't want anything to happen to her. She's already lost two snakes (NOT in my care!!!!!) and she's the true snake lover of all of them.
  • 04-22-2009, 04:36 PM
    dr del
    Re: baby isn't eating
    Hi,

    Awww

    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...6/dscf6030.jpg

    She's gorgeous. :D


    dr del
  • 04-27-2009, 12:39 AM
    grammie
    Re: baby isn't eating
    oh yeah, she ate!!! you knew she would, right?? I am dancing, I'm so happy!!!!! Thanks all, can't wait to tell my granddaughter in the morning, she was already in bed when I put the pinkie in.
  • 04-27-2009, 12:54 AM
    llovelace
    Re: baby isn't eating
    Congrats!
  • 04-27-2009, 11:18 AM
    Brandon Osborne
    Re: baby isn't eating
    Try bumping the size of your meals up. Pinks at 6-8 months old are way to small. At this age it should be eating small to large hoppers.
  • 04-27-2009, 11:20 AM
    grammie
    Re: baby isn't eating
    thanks. I feed rats, how big are hoppers considered (I raise my own, so can't just buy them like that)

    edit to add.... just looked at rodentpro for sizes. Do you mean rat hoppers or mice? thanks so much!!
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