normal bp,, spider bp dead!!!!:(

well came home today after my basketball game to a sad, sad sight, my 2 top racks overheated and seems to have burned my two top racks using uth.. my thermostat i guess tripped and this really sucks, makes me wanna just quit all of it, my wife was very upset as the normal female was her favorite, there skin all underneath was browned out and it seems they didnt bother to move, damn tub was literally melted as well... well now im down to 2 females one big normal girl 1700grams and one pastel female 760grams. this blows a big one,,,, i shoulda stuck with the very small uth as i replaced them all with large uth and i kinda knew they were to big but i didnt feel like the temp were getting to high with the small uth.....:(

I'm am so sorry to hear about your losses...

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i am sorry...makes me want to reconsider using a uth on my girl asap...what other heating devices can be used that aernt as dangerous to snakes?

I have had a uth go bad and so has my sister. She caught hers before it did any damage, I wasnt as lucky. Mine melted the bin my bloodxborneo was in. She didnt burn but the effects of the heat and the fumes from the melting plastic took thier toll, she died within 2 weeks.
I now use heat tape that is wired to a herpstat with a probe.
I think you could use uth's if you plug them into a dimmer or thermostat.

Im so sorry to hear about this :(

we shall pail our heads in silence. Sorry about that man. i would be torn up if it was me


sorry :grouphug:

how is that possible!? My UTH even without thermostat can not heat more than 36°C/96°F...!!! Why manufactures is making that hot UTHs???

thats why i stay away from UTH im a fan of the lamp

So sorry to hear about your loss:(

I'm so very sorry to read of the loss of your snakes. Personally I prefer using flexwatt controlled by a good tstat (or a rheostat in a pinch). I also get Rich from Reptile Basics to wire all my flexwatt, which he does for free as long as you buy the wiring kit. I don't trust my own skills with that so I figure have him do it.

Why type of UTH did this damage? What type of tstat? When you say too big, how big was too big? Sorry for all the questions but I always figure in each tragedy like this, if we can learn something from it, then it's something to hold on to.

Sorry for your loss.

I highly suggest using flexwatt with a digital thermostat. I have used Johnson Controls and Herpstats, and am happy with both.

I'm very sorry for your loss. I recently had a heater issue with a room heater which heated the room to 120F killing my gravid pastel ball, and my radiated ratsnake.
Bad things sometimes happen, and don't give it up entirely. HUGS. Hang in there, most people have accidents.

I am so, so sorry.

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thats why i stay away from UTH im a fan of the lamp

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you dont use UTH only a lamp??? BP's need belly heat

I'm sorry. That's a terrible loss for you. Can you please tell us what type of thermostat that this was for the the benefit of others who may be using or considering the same thermostat?

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you dont use UTH only a lamp??? BP's need belly heat

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Belly heat is not required.

Im real sorry for your loss. I would try Heat tape it works well with a thermostat.

I'm so sorry to hear about your loss. That really sucks. Pet store UTH's regularly short out. I came home once to find that one had nearly caught fire and could have burned my house down (snake survived). Flexwatt and a quality thermostat are the only way to go with BP's in my opinion.

Sorry for your loss oceancube

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i am sorry...makes me want to reconsider using a uth on my girl asap...what other heating devices can be used that aernt as dangerous to snakes?

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UTH and or flewxatt combined with a RELIABLE thermostat are pretty safe. In my experience if you use anything like a rheostat, or a cheap dial thermostat such as zoomed or Zilla you are more likely to experience serious problems. (you get what you pay for basically)

I have seen those fail and apparently instead of cutting the power they simply fail to control the temps letting the temps spike, this is why I never recommend anything else than ranco and Johnson on the low end and herpstat and helix on the high end.

Over-heating can also be due to the placement of the probe, if place in the enclosure and cool down by water when a dish is tipped over the temps will rise, if the probe is not securely attached on the heat source, over-heating can also happen which is why the probe should be checked on a regular basis.

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how is that possible!? My UTH even without thermostat can not heat more than 36°C/96°F...!!! Why manufactures is making that hot UTHs???

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Wrong, there is no UTH not getting over a certain temps, I have several that do say that however after a series of tests in various conditions they will heat up to 120+.
Bottom line a heat source should ALWAYS be controlled with a RELIABLE thermostat to maintain proper temps and avoid over-heating.

very sorry, its terrible, but can happen to any one, it only takes a faulty thermo. keep in there bro.

that really really sucks....

sorry to hear that.:tears:

Sorry for your loss :'(

I'm very sorry man, don't know what to say.

Sorry to hear. :tears:

THANKS alot guys, sorry about not responding but i just got back from work...i used the medium large uth.. and used them with a rethrostat i think thats how you spell it, my other 2 didnt cause anything but just top 2 bins.. yeah i was all upset till like 4am last night and finally got some sleep and was tired all day stressing about my snakes.. yeah i know there just snakes but they had me stressing... kinda sucks you dont realize what you got till it's gone, ordered some heat tape and a herpstat.. hopefully that works out better for me,,,, also what can i do to lower my humidity in my bins.... i have a 5 rack system with 28qt tubs,newspaper bedding,one large hide,and one water bowl, got small holes drilled all around and still having 70-76% humidity levels......really bugging me....

Did you have rheostat? That is the equivalent of a lamp dimmer.

Same size flexwatt (or heat pads) on any one heating control device for all enclosures, otherwise you will get fluctuations. :(

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THANKS alot guys, sorry about not responding but i just got back from work...i used the medium large uth.. and used them with a rethrostat i think thats how you spell it, my other 2 didnt cause anything but just top 2 bins.. yeah i was all upset till like 4am last night and finally got some sleep and was tired all day stressing about my snakes.. yeah i know there just snakes but they had me stressing... kinda sucks you dont realize what you got till it's gone, ordered some heat tape and a herpstat.. hopefully that works out better for me,,,, also what can i do to lower my humidity in my bins.... i have a 5 rack system with 28qt tubs,newspaper bedding,one large hide,and one water bowl, got small holes drilled all around and still having 70-76% humidity levels......really bugging me....

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Snakes can be your babies too, I'm sure everyone here can agree to that. I feel so sorry for your loss, and I agree w/ past statements where even bad things can happen to good people, it's really to bad. Please send my good thoughts to you and your wife...
I can't give much advice on racks as I do not use them as of yet..
I just wanted to send my condolences from everyone here at the CT Reptile Rescue
Rusty

So soory man, that really sucks. I love my herpstat.
There will be better days. Hang in there

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THANKS alot guys, sorry about not responding but i just got back from work...i used the medium large uth.. and used them with a rethrostat i think thats how you spell it, my other 2 didnt cause anything but just top 2 bins.. yeah i was all upset till like 4am last night and finally got some sleep and was tired all day stressing about my snakes.. yeah i know there just snakes but they had me stressing... kinda sucks you dont realize what you got till it's gone, ordered some heat tape and a herpstat.. hopefully that works out better for me,,,, also what can i do to lower my humidity in my bins.... i have a 5 rack system with 28qt tubs,newspaper bedding,one large hide,and one water bowl, got small holes drilled all around and still having 70-76% humidity levels......really bugging me....

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how small of holes?

Sorry to hear about this. Losing one of these amazing animals is never easy.

again thanks guys... holes are 1/4 inch in diameter about 7-8 across the front tub all around.. i think it's the heat evaporating the water to fast... i really need that thermostat here today...lol i think i figured out my problem thanks guys!!!

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Wrong, there is no UTH not getting over a certain temps, I have several that do say that however after a series of tests in various conditions they will heat up to 120+.
Bottom line a heat source should ALWAYS be controlled with a RELIABLE thermostat to maintain proper temps and avoid over-heating.

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I have Ultratherm Viv Mat at home. I have made a lot of test before using it and I can confirm: maximum temperature I get is 36°C/96°F. Not a degree more!

My aim is to say why using mat that is able to heat that much! Even if thermostat jams and mat is permanently on I still get just temperature of my body! Nothing that can kill BP... Or from other point of view... why manufacturer is making that hot mats for reptiles!?

just note: because I want 30°C/86°F on substrate I have been using thermostat... so not the panic please.

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I have Ultratherm Viv Mat at home. I have made a lot of test before using it and I can confirm: maximum temperature I get is 36°C/96°F. Not a degree more!

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I own 10 of them and I can assure you that if not controlled the temp can get much higher.

If the ambient room temp is spiking the temps of your Ultratherm will get higher very quick...........GUARENTEE ;)

And no none of my ultratherm are defective the catch is that they basically fo not get temps higher then so many degrees if the ambient temps of the room are low and stable, if the room start heating up you're in for trouble.

Thermostat also prevent over-heating due to mal function which that can happen with any heating device.

I am so very sorry for your loss. :tears:

You could make the holes 3/8" and see if that helps. I find that the best way to reduce humidity in a tub is to put holes only in the two ends (not the sides) and put more holes in the warm end than the cool end. Also put cool end holes lower on the tub and warm end holes higher on the tub.This will pull air in the cool end and carry humidity out the warm end.

I am terribly sorry for your loss. This thread made me cry a little. Thinks will look up again.