Some albino's born

Total surprise, got some adult females from someone who didn't not want them anymore. No male around but both pregnant. While in quarantine they gave birth!!!! here some photo's Albino's are 1.1.

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Sorry trying to get them bigger no luck so far

I hate to burst your bubble but those are pink eye dilutes...

Still congrats on producing them. I am working on a whole colony of them I am selectively breeding them to have self pink eyed.


Mike

Very cute, I love the little PED's.

Hoax, it you bred two head spots together, you'll get selfs. The pied is a homozygous form of the head spot. :gj:

Thanks for the info..PED they are then. Awesome. So is a "true" albino all white?

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

Hoax, it you bred two head spots together, you'll get selfs. The pied is a homozygous form of the head spot. :gj:

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Yep. :D

just a question for anyone that can help with what you call dilutes. is it normal to get some of them in a litter from normals and if you breed two of them together will it always prove out in a litter that all babies will be dilutes? or is there some other form of them?
thanks in advance
Shawn

I'd like to hear more about the head spots? I'd love to get some selfs. What exactly are head spots?

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just a question for anyone that can help with what you call dilutes. is it normal to get some of them in a litter from normals and if you breed two of them together will it always prove out in a litter that all babies will be dilutes? or is there some other form of them?
thanks in advance
Shawn

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Yes, the dilutes are simple recessive. Agouti's can have albinos or cinnamons.

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I'd like to hear more about the head spots? I'd love to get some selfs. What exactly are head spots?

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Head spot is the heterozygous form of the white spotting gene and is co-dominant.

W*W*: Pied
N W*: Head spot
NN: Normal (solid or self)

what do you mean Agouti ?

Agouti is the wild color. They are a dark brown/black color, and the hair strangs are banded yellow near the tip. I've got pics on my website of the ASF colors.

I was just checking out your site . Excellent source of info. I guess what I have would be( Pink eyed dilute pieds) .looking through your pics.
once again excellent site.

Thank you

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

Head spot is the heterozygous form of the white spotting gene and is co-dominant.

W*W*: Pied
N W*: Head spot
NN: Normal (solid or self)

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Does someone have some pictures of the head spots, what they look like? Or is there someone with some genetics info with photos on a site somewhere?

Okay, found Connie's colors info. When you said head spots, I was thinking the eyebrow marks. So, there's no way to get selfs from pieds?

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Okay, found Connie's colors info. When you said head spots, I was thinking the eyebrow marks. So, there's no way to get selfs from pieds?

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no.

How does the amber gene work? I have a male and 2 of his daughters that are ambers. If bred together will they produce all ambers?

Yup, the Amber color is a simple recessive. Amber on agouti gives an animal with a rich orange yellow color, and Amber on the cinnamon dilutes gives a paler orange, Amber color with a blueish undercoat.