Another YellowBelly or Normal Question.

Hello, i read thru the "Hunter guide to morph" but i still couldnt find a definite answer.

what makes me think its a YB, is because of the creeping yellow on the side, the belly is not clear, which make me doubtful or is that consider a clear belly?

anyway, here goes the picture..
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3443/...b51eb8.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3509/...6ab37e.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3454/...4edf2a.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3407/...c2f256.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3368/...ea8860.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3380/...bd7c21.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3451/...1f3101.jpg?v=0

Thats a normal... sorry to say.

Nice snake, but not a YB.

Many if not most pythons have that creeping yellow... it is very distinct in a YB and once you've seen a few you can spot it right away.

Bruce.

Compare these belly pics to yours... it will give you an idea.

1st... my Yellowbelly.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...weerashid3.jpg

2nd... a couple of my normals

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...idsept2008.jpg

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...Z-ph-belly.jpg

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Originally Posted by Bruce Whitehead

Thats a normal... sorry to say.

Nice snake, but not a YB.

Many if not most pythons have that creeping yellow... it is very distinct in a YB and once you've seen a few you can spot it right away.

Bruce.

Compare these belly pics to yours... it will give you an idea.

1st... my Yellowbelly.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...weerashid3.jpg

2nd... a couple of my normals

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...idsept2008.jpg

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...Z-ph-belly.jpg

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why is the belly so yellow on the normal? looks ringer like

Nice looking snake, but not a YB.

One of the things I've noticed about all of our YBs, is that none of them have bright white edging on the side panels (alien faces) like yours does. It's usually more of a yellow or gold color when they're young, fading to a cream or tan color as they mature. There may be exceptions, but none I've seen myself.

I'll post a few pics of some of ours to show you what I'm referring to. I'll also post a few belly shots to illustrate the difference there. I hope this will help you.

http://photos.imageevent.com/corners...e/Dscf2864.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/corners...e/Dscf2868.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/corners...e/Dscf2866.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/corners...male%203_1.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/corners...male%203_2.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/corners...e/DSCF0132.jpg

I'm Pretty sure that YB's have a clear belly with no speckling. I would say its defiantly Normal. Although not all normals have speckling...

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Originally Posted by spartaselite

I'm Pretty sure that YB's have a clear belly with no speckling. I would say its defiantly Normal. Although not all normals have speckling...

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You're right. They've got a (sorry, I'm going to describe this terribly) kind of checker pattern/speckling on the edges, not the belly itself. I guess still on their bellies, but not in the middle, in between this pattern is a nice clean belly...Bruce's picture shows it perfectly.:rolleye2:

louis these yellow bellys are sweet
that little one might be the best yellow belly i ever seen

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Originally Posted by nova2door

louis these yellow bellys are sweet
that little one might be the best yellow belly i ever seen

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Thanks!!! That's a CH female we picked up last year. She's definitely a little hottie.

Louis, that little one is SWEET. Everyone always posts pics of their partially striped Balls, but never the polka dotted ones like yours. I really like the dotted look, and the belly is text book.

Dave

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Originally Posted by EmberBall

Louis, that little one is SWEET. Everyone always posts pics of their partially striped Balls, but never the polka dotted ones like yours. I really like the dotted look, and the belly is text book.

Dave

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Thanks Dave! Yeah....I fell in love with that belly :O and knew I HAD to have her.

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Originally Posted by Butters420

why is the belly so yellow on the normal? looks ringer like

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Just luck of the draw. I have 3 snakes that have that yellow stomach and high yellow sides. The one in the pic is het for pied, but does not have any pied markers.

Bruce

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Originally Posted by Louis Kirkland

Thanks!!! That's a CH female we picked up last year. She's definitely a little hottie.

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i don't think you'll have a problem proving her out

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Originally Posted by Bruce Whitehead

Just luck of the draw. I have 3 snakes that have that yellow stomach and high yellow sides. The one in the pic is het for pied, but does not have any pied markers.

Bruce

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ahh.i see

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Originally Posted by Louis Kirkland

Nice looking snake, but not a YB.

One of the things I've noticed about all of our YBs, is that none of them have bright white edging on the side panels (alien faces) like yours does. It's usually more of a yellow or gold color when they're young, fading to a cream or tan color as they mature. There may be exceptions, but none I've seen myself.

I'll post a few pics of some of ours to show you what I'm referring to. I'll also post a few belly shots to illustrate the difference there. I hope this will help you.

http://photos.imageevent.com/corners...e/Dscf2864.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/corners...e/Dscf2868.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/corners...e/Dscf2866.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/corners...male%203_1.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/corners...male%203_2.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/corners...e/DSCF0132.jpg

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the 5th and 6th pictures are a yb??? i love the top color of that one...amazing...i love how dark it is. im a BIG FAN of bright high contrast albinos but that one is amazing

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Originally Posted by nybp

the 5th and 6th pictures are a yb??? i love the top color of that one...amazing...i love how dark it is. im a BIG FAN of bright high contrast albinos but that one is amazing

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Thank you!

The first 3 pictures are of an '07 captive hatched YB male. The next 2 pics are of an '08 captive hatched YB female, and the last is of an '06 captive bred YB male.

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Originally Posted by Louis Kirkland

Thank you!

The first 3 pictures are of an '07 captive hatched YB male. The next 2 pics are of an '08 captive hatched YB female, and the last is of an '06 captive bred YB male.

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that 08 female looks just like a black pastel. i was looking for any bp that looked like her. i was going thru every single breeder i could think of just to see one like it and she is OUTSTANDING

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Originally Posted by EmberBall

Louis, that little one is SWEET. Everyone always posts pics of their partially striped Balls, but never the polka dotted ones like yours. I really like the dotted look, and the belly is text book.

Dave

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Wicked pics Louis!
I have a male that looks alot like your little female, and it makes it hard to see what a 'normal' YB looks like, but your point about the lack of white borders is bang on. I hadn't noticed that before but now that you mention it I think YBs aren't going to be a head scratcher anymore.
Thanks for the great info with great pics!!!
Cheers
Albie

Well, to muck it up a bit, here is one of my Yellowbellies.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...llowbelly2.jpg

They CAN have speckled bellies, but it is not the norm.

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

Well, to muck it up a bit, here is one of my Yellowbellies.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...llowbelly2.jpg

They CAN have speckled bellies, but it is not the norm.

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Dadgum Heather........why dint chi put that one in yer YB poll?

That's cool lookin'. :gj:

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

Well, to muck it up a bit, here is one of my Yellowbellies.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...llowbelly2.jpg

They CAN have speckled bellies, but it is not the norm.

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Tricky tricky
Is that a proven line?

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

Well, to muck it up a bit, here is one of my Yellowbellies.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...llowbelly2.jpg

They CAN have speckled bellies, but it is not the norm.

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Why be the norm when you can be special;)

That is a very cool belly! You gotta show me that one next time:cool:

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Originally Posted by Bluebead

Tricky tricky
Is that a proven line?

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Why yes :P

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

Why yes :P

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I was biting my tongue on that one. :)

Excellent example of their variance.

Bruce

That one totally threw me for a loop after looking at Louis's pics and my own male, who even in shed is obviously a YB
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...3/dscn1534.jpg