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  • 02-03-2009, 12:33 AM
    drew2420
    the true ghost pictured in "Exotics By Nature's New Calendar for 2009!" post.
    does anyone know who breeds these "true ghosts" and the availability and price range on these. i would love to have one of these amazing ball pythons any info would be of help.

    Thanks,
    Drew Lewis
  • 02-03-2009, 12:38 AM
    dreese88
    Re: the true ghost pictured in "Exotics By Nature's New Calendar for 2009!" post.
    A true ghost is an axanthic hypo...I couldn't give you an accurate price range, but it would be $1000+.
  • 02-03-2009, 12:49 AM
    drew2420
    Re: the true ghost pictured in "Exotics By Nature's New Calendar for 2009!" post.
    ahhh i see it now. should have guessed that. wow what a combo :bow::bow:
    anyone breeding the axanthic ghost combo?? i could work with a $1000-$1500
  • 02-03-2009, 12:50 AM
    roadrunner
    Re: the true ghost pictured in "Exotics By Nature's New Calendar for 2009!" post.
    currently, only the Snakekeeper (dan and colette sutherland) have produced one and i think it is a female but i could be wrong. It had a NSF on it when i saw it but most things are available for the right price. I would imagine they would want 25k for a male. thats what they are asking for the clown pied male.......another Double recessive project that just got produced this year.
  • 02-03-2009, 12:53 AM
    dreese88
    Re: the true ghost pictured in "Exotics By Nature's New Calendar for 2009!" post.
    for a 1.3 group of PossDblHets TSK was asking $2000...honestly, you might be better off trying to make your own. It'll take some years, but would be more gratifying and probably somewhat cheaper.
  • 02-03-2009, 12:57 AM
    AaronP
    Re: the true ghost pictured in "Exotics By Nature's New Calendar for 2009!" post.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dreese88 View Post
    for a 1.3 group of PossDblHets TSK was asking $2000...honestly, you might be better off trying to make your own. It'll take some years, but would be more gratifying and probably somewhat cheaper.

    How old was the 1.3? Considering that a Nice Hypo runs about $400 for a male (again a NICE Hypo) and a nice Axanthic girl runs about $600-800, depending on the line, and when you factor in cost of ownership, care, potential vet bills, and overall time, it isn't any cheaper.
  • 02-03-2009, 01:02 AM
    drew2420
    Re: the true ghost pictured in "Exotics By Nature's New Calendar for 2009!" post.
    hrmm thanks to all for the input.

    what kind of ghost would go best with a vpi axanthic????
  • 02-03-2009, 01:04 AM
    dreese88
    Re: the true ghost pictured in "Exotics By Nature's New Calendar for 2009!" post.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AaronP View Post
    How old was the 1.3? Considering that a Nice Hypo runs about $400 for a male (again a NICE Hypo) and a nice Axanthic girl runs about $600-800, depending on the line, and when you factor in cost of ownership, care, potential vet bills, and overall time, it isn't any cheaper.

    They looked like juvies...just checked and on 1/06 one of them was 148 g. You gotta think though...these are possible dbl hets. they might not even prove. I think I would, even in the long run if it cost a little bit more, make my own and be sure. I know you're all against people breeding their own snakes to make the combo morphs that they want to, but most people like that idea.
  • 02-03-2009, 01:11 AM
    drew2420
    Re: the true ghost pictured in "Exotics By Nature's New Calendar for 2009!" post.
    i like the idea of breeding my own combos. i have a few projects that need tied up and im going to throw a fem ghost into the picture so i can eventually make the axanthic ghost combo.

    anyhow whats the opinions on what ghost would mix best with a vpi axanthic.
  • 02-03-2009, 01:13 AM
    AaronP
    Re: the true ghost pictured in "Exotics By Nature's New Calendar for 2009!" post.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dreese88 View Post
    They looked like juvies...just checked and on 1/06 one of them was 148 g. You gotta think though...these are possible dbl hets. they might not even prove. I think I would, even in the long run if it cost a little bit more, make my own and be sure. I know you're all against people breeding their own snakes to make the combo morphs that they want to, but most people like that idea.

    I'm not against it, I just encourage people to put serious thought into it before doing it. People tend to over simplify the entire process.

    As far as best axanthic goes, in my opinion I think the VPI Axanthic would make some really nice ones.
  • 02-03-2009, 01:17 AM
    dreese88
    Re: the true ghost pictured in "Exotics By Nature's New Calendar for 2009!" post.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AaronP View Post
    People tend to over simplify the entire process.

    As far as best axanthic goes, in my opinion I think the VPI Axanthic would make some really nice ones.

    I can agree with that.

    OP - I really don't know what kind of hypo would look the best. NERD's desert ghost(Recessive line) probably would look the best, but I have no idea about their availibility. But I'm sure an OG would look great as well. Definitely go VPI Axanthic for that part of the equation.
  • 02-03-2009, 01:30 AM
    drew2420
    Re: the true ghost pictured in "Exotics By Nature's New Calendar for 2009!" post.
    so a orange ghost would do the job! great. correct me if i am wrong but in the first breeding of the axanthic and orange ghost would be all dbl hets correct?
  • 02-03-2009, 01:31 AM
    AaronP
    Re: the true ghost pictured in "Exotics By Nature's New Calendar for 2009!" post.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by drew2420 View Post
    so a orange ghost would do the job! great. correct me if i am wrong but in the first breeding of the axanthic and orange ghost would be all dbl hets correct?

    Yes they would all be double het for True Ghost.
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