When do you separate ASFs??

I have a tub of ASFs, 1.2 with 2 litters
10 babies- 1 week old
9 babies- about 2-3 weeks old, eyes arent really open yet

and one of the females should be due again in about a week or so

What has worked for you guys?, I know about the giving them a break between litters, but im just too scared Ill have problems when introducing all over again, can I leave them all in there until the babies are about 25-30 grams? which is what I like my feeders at.


sorry for my spelling, and run on sentences, was never to good in english class lol:D

I pull them at around 5-6 weeks *I think*. When they are fast, with beady eyes, and are eating their own food (around 15g or so).

I never leave them in till they are feeder size. I just find I get fatalies of the pinks then, since they all huddle in one corner and bury the babes.

Same with separating them out to give females a risk. I leave established colonies alone and never separate them. They are fine with back to back breeding.

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Originally Posted by Bruce Whitehead

I pull them at around 5-6 weeks *I think*. When they are fast, with beady eyes, and are eating their own food (around 15g or so).

I never leave them in till they are feeder size. I just find I get fatalies of the pinks then, since they all huddle in one corner and bury the babes.

Same with separating them out to give females a risk. I leave established colonies alone and never separate them. They are fine with back to back breeding.

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Ditto that, I wean once they got 'the look' like Bruce said, and if they get left in, the next litter of pinks are often smothered.

I've only had a few litters, but have been separating them right at the 3 week mark. This has been giving mom a couple days' rest before her next litter is born.

In the two years I have been breeding them, I have learned to usually pull about the four or five week mark. its either just before the next litter or just as it was born. I wait til they are all wide eyed and eating on their own. I usually tell this when cleaning because the bin I put them to to clean I will have a little bit of food in and usually you will see them eating it. if your unsure that is a good way to tell. I have accidently let a couple litters sit not paying close enough attention and end up with dead pinkies as well.

As soon as their eyes are open they are ready to be pulled. Technicly you can pull them even right before they open and they will still be fine... but you run a higher risk of death.

Ive been charting them since sept. Ive pulled them on Avg at 22 days of age...

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Originally Posted by Jeff Krupa

Ive been charting them since sept. Ive pulled them on Avg at 22 days of age...

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It's been a while since September... think you'd like to share that chart with us?

I take out the older litter right before the new litter is born... so around 3 weeks. Yeah, mommy doesn't get too much of a rest. I have to say, I've witnessed the births of 2 litters and not even an hour after the babies are born, the dad is chasing mom around again. That really IRRITATES me. I wanted to SQUOOSH the dad so bad sooo many times! :rage::rage::rage:

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Originally Posted by anatess

Yeah, mommy doesn't get too much of a rest. I have to say, I've witnessed the births of 2 litters and not even an hour after the babies are born, the dad is chasing mom around again. That really IRRITATES me. I wanted to SQUOOSH the dad so bad sooo many times! :rage::rage::rage:

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LOL... where is all this hostillity coming from?! He is just doing what he does best...

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Originally Posted by anatess

It's been a while since September... think you'd like to share that chart with us?

I take out the older litter right before the new litter is born... so around 3 weeks. Yeah, mommy doesn't get too much of a rest. I have to say, I've witnessed the births of 2 litters and not even an hour after the babies are born, the dad is chasing mom around again. That really IRRITATES me. I wanted to SQUOOSH the dad so bad sooo many times! :rage::rage::rage:

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That's because mommy is a little tramp and goes right back into heat an hour after she births her litter.... :colbert:

Don't blame the man when the woman is putting out like mad, they just can't help themselves to some prime ASF puntang. ;)

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

That's because mommy is a little tramp and goes right back into heat an hour after she births her litter.... :colbert:

Don't blame the man when the woman is putting out like mad, they just can't help themselves to some prime ASF puntang. ;)

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I love you connie....

I am totally going to give the wrong info her... but *meh*... :)

Gerbils do the same thing, they mate the night the female gives birth. I figure it is similar, and it does serve a reproductive purpose... uhm, besides just getting mom preggers again (I just cannot remember what it is).

But species that are *designed* for back to back breedings, I do not question it I just go with.

Live hard, die young and leave a good looking corpse (and about 5000 offspring).

ASFs ARE going to take over the world!!!

Bruce

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Originally Posted by Bruce Whitehead

Gerbils do the same thing, they mate the night the female gives birth.

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I think it is similar for most rodents and their close relatives. I know guinea pigs can get pregnant again immediately after giving birth.

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

That's because mommy is a little tramp and goes right back into heat an hour after she births her litter.... :colbert:

Don't blame the man when the woman is putting out like mad, they just can't help themselves to some prime ASF puntang. ;)

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Oh, I HAVE to blame the man... them horny buggers. :D
I can't squoosh the woman - she has to feed those cute babies. Can't help it if she's one sexy femme. :banana:

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Originally Posted by bruce whitehead

live hard, die young and leave a good looking corpse (and about 5000 offspring).

Asfs are going to take over the world!!!

Bruce

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:8:

I separate the babies when they're hopping. I have 1.2 in a 10g tank and they've raised five litters. I've only lost one litter of pinks, and I don't know why. Usu. I leave them all alone so as not to bother them. This time, the pinks were prickly w/hair, and the next day there weren't any babies.

As it's going, my snakes are eating them faster than they're breeding and growing. So I don't often have to worry about when I'm separating them....they're gone before then.

I'm at the point where I need two or three more breeder tanks. *sigh* (But at least I now have my problem eaters, eating again! Yaaaay!:banana: )