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  • 01-18-2009, 09:24 PM
    schulte5000
    thermostats
    im not really sure where to get one if i need one how i hook it up, but a lot of people on here say they are good i dont know if they are good for glass aquariums like i have or just for racks but i would much like some input on this situation im a first time ball owner so im really in the dark on most of this stuff
  • 01-18-2009, 09:43 PM
    DutchHerp
    Re: thermostats
    You can get Ranco, Helix, and Johnson Controls at www.reptilebasics.com

    I have a herpstat myself and I have no complaints whatsoever, but it's a little bit more pricey.

    What you do is you hook the thermostat into a standard wall output, then you plug a heat source in the power outlet from the thermostat. A probe running from the thermostat going into the enclosure measures the temps, which then lets the thermostat apply more or less power to the heat source accordingly.

    And yeah, they'll work fine in glass tanks :)
  • 01-18-2009, 09:51 PM
    starmom
    Re: thermostats
    If you are heating using flex watt, UTH or RHP, you'll need a thermostat to control the heat that the source out-puts. It is a very important husbandry tool.

    I use Helix's and Herpstat's (www.spyderrobotics.com) and if needing to choose between the two, I'd choose the Herpstat at this point. The basic Herpstat is $109 and the Helix costs $135 :)
  • 01-18-2009, 09:52 PM
    schulte5000
    Re: thermostats
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DutchHerp View Post
    You can get Ranco, Helix, and Johnson Controls at www.reptilebasics.com

    I have a herpstat myself and I have no complaints whatsoever, but it's a little bit more pricey.

    What you do is you hook the thermostat into a standard wall output, then you plug a heat source in the power outlet from the thermostat. A probe running from the thermostat going into the enclosure measures the temps, which then lets the thermostat apply more or less power to the heat source accordingly.

    And yeah, they'll work fine in glass tanks :)

    i have a uth and a heating lamp i probably should not be using a tight beam basking light but i think a ceramic heating element would be better but can plug them both into the thermostat and manage both their heats accordingly make them the same temp and what not or should they be different
  • 01-18-2009, 09:54 PM
    DutchHerp
    Re: thermostats
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by schulte5000 View Post
    i have a uth and a heating lamp i probably should not be using a tight beam basking light but i think a ceramic heating element would be better but can plug them both into the thermostat and manage both their heats accordingly make them the same temp and what not or should they be different

    Sorry I don't really get the question... :confused:
  • 01-18-2009, 09:55 PM
    starmom
    Re: thermostats
    If you purchase the Herpstat II it will control two different heat sources.
  • 01-18-2009, 09:56 PM
    2kdime
    Re: thermostats
    Herpstat Pro FTW
  • 01-18-2009, 09:57 PM
    schulte5000
    Re: thermostats
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DutchHerp View Post
    Sorry I don't really get the question... :confused:

    should i be using a ceramic bulb or a heat light bulb uhhh ill post a pic to show what im working with
  • 01-18-2009, 09:58 PM
    DutchHerp
    Re: thermostats
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by schulte5000 View Post
    should i be using a ceramic bulb or a heat light bulb uhhh ill post a pic to show what im working with

    Depends on your room temperature. If it's above 75 I guess you can just use a UTH. Even if it's lower you can use just that if you can insulate the cage well enough.
  • 01-18-2009, 09:58 PM
    starmom
    Re: thermostats
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 2kdime View Post
    Herpstat Pro FTW

    I don't think he needs to control 4 different heat sources ;)
    The Herpstat II controls two different heat sources :)
  • 01-18-2009, 10:01 PM
    DutchHerp
    Re: thermostats
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by starmom View Post
    I don't think he needs to control 4 different heat sources ;)
    The Herpstat II controls two different heat sources :)

    Yeah I don't think a regular herpstat can handle a UTH and a bulb/CHE even if they're in the same power outlet because they don't "communicate" well :confused:


    Herpstats Pros ---> :rockon:
  • 01-18-2009, 10:03 PM
    starmom
    Re: thermostats
    Nope- not the Herpstat ND, but the Herpstat II can :)
  • 01-18-2009, 10:05 PM
    schulte5000
    Re: thermostats
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...9528_thumb.jpg this is my lamp with a 75w tight beam basking spot lamp
  • 01-18-2009, 10:07 PM
    schulte5000
    Re: thermostats
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...0892_thumb.jpg this is my entire tank how i have it during the day please tell me what i need to do differently
  • 01-18-2009, 10:31 PM
    DutchHerp
    Re: thermostats
    Provide a second hide, possibly get rid of the half log since it's not very secure...

    Maybe insulate the back and sides of the tank or cover it with black paper so the snake feels more secure.
  • 01-18-2009, 10:31 PM
    DutchHerp
    Re: thermostats
    That light is not on for 24 hrs right?
  • 01-18-2009, 10:55 PM
    starmom
    Re: thermostats
    I would do the following:
    - 2 hides of the same type; one for the cool side and one for the warm side. This will permit the snake to thermoregulate properly and not need to choose between security and thermoregulation. Also, the log hides are fairly open and large. You could either buy smaller hides or make hides from the bottom of planters, small and non-see-through plastic containers, etc. Just cut them a door :)
    - I would insulate the sides and back of the tank with a dark material. I live in a cold place and so I use the pink rigid insulation. Others have used dense foam board or cork board.
    - I would cover the lid with foil and duct tape to help keep the humidity in.
    - I would ditch the towel because it harbors bacteria and also draws the moisture back out of the tank as the towel dries.
    - I would not use the lamp and instead use a CHE as this will not zap your humidity so badly.

    With a CHE and a UTH you'll need either two thermostats or one Herpstat II.
    The other route you can choose would be to make a wooden top for the tank and use a radiant heat panel and no other heat source. This means you could get by on one thermostat but you would have the initial monetary outlay for the RHP: http://www.reptilebasics.com/RBI-Rad...p-1-c-283.html
  • 01-19-2009, 08:53 AM
    schulte5000
    Re: thermostats
    thank you so much that is such a big help i will be picking all that stuff up today but to insulate do you mean just put stuff on the back and sides on the outside of the tank or what...and if i get a CHE can i leave taht on all night because i turned my light off the first night i got it and and i couldnt sleep in fear of my snake freezing so i wasnt sure
  • 01-19-2009, 12:36 PM
    DutchHerp
    Re: thermostats
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by schulte5000 View Post
    thank you so much that is such a big help i will be picking all that stuff up today but to insulate do you mean just put stuff on the back and sides on the outside of the tank or what...and if i get a CHE can i leave taht on all night because i turned my light off the first night i got it and and i couldnt sleep in fear of my snake freezing so i wasnt sure

    Yeah just covering up the back, sides, and maybe part of the top with good insulating material will help.

    A CHE won't give off light, so you can leave that on for 24hrs. If you have a light it MUST be turned off at night.
  • 01-19-2009, 12:59 PM
    schulte5000
    Re: thermostats
    okay things are taking a turn for the better :) i just purchased a CHE but its a 100w so im going to wait till my thermostat gets here to hook it up. so that means i also purchased a thermostat and i purchased some cypress bedding also. tonight after work i will be putting duct tape and tinfoil over the top of my tank the only thing is i need different hides...i have a box and i think its good size might be too big but we will see i will have to make due with one hide for now but next time i feed my snake i will get two i will just use the box the mice come in so that makes things easier. and i need to put some insulation things around the tank any suggestions on easy to find cheap products...i have spent far more then i thought i would of spent on this snake so it better not die on me. but yeah all i need now is some insulation around my tank suggestions appreciated. thank you again all for puttin up with my...noobness? lol :D
  • 01-19-2009, 01:36 PM
    DutchHerp
    Re: thermostats
    Foam board, styrofoam, and reflectix I think are the best ones...
  • 01-19-2009, 01:55 PM
    starmom
    Re: thermostats
    I use the pink rigid insulation at Home Depot.

    It also depends on the environment of the room that the snake is kept in. Our house is on the chilly side and at night our house is cold :O

    You could try at first with some thick recycled cardboard box material and see if that does the trick. If not, cork board or rigid foam board works for lots of people. If that's not good enough, I'd go with the rigid insulation :)

    Kudos for getting all the stuff and ordering the t'stat!! It is often the case that the environment set-up costs more than the snake, but once you get it right, it's very good. Also, one thermostat can run several tanks.... ;) Mwaha ha ha!
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