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  • 01-18-2009, 04:24 PM
    JenH
    What am I?
    I just started breeding rats and I got some cute ones in the first litters. I have no idea what they are....

    I have 1.4 where dad and one of the moms are black hooded stiped (?) and 3 of the girls are what I thought were albino. Some have a little light coloration on their back at their shoulder blades.

    This one is a cutie that I will probably be keeping. Yes her eyes are pink.

    http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/d...ighthooded.jpg

    Here is a younger litter. Are those blue hooded pups? And what do you call the solid colored ones?

    http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/d...ske/litter.jpg

    They are so cute!!
  • 01-18-2009, 04:37 PM
    Jyson
    Re: What am I?
    The one in the first pic is a blond hoody. As for the other hoodeds they look like normal hoodies, still cute though.

    Btw, Excellent Pics
  • 01-18-2009, 04:40 PM
    ThyTempest
    Re: What am I?
    http://www.hawthorn.org.uk/varieties.asp

    The ones in the first pic is beige hooded.

    The "solid" blacks are called selfs if they dont have any white anywhere on their body. Look at the standards for berkshire, irish and English Irish on the link I gave you to determine which they are, if not self.

    As for the darker hooded pups, definitely not blue, but I am not really sure what. They could potentially be a very dark beige hooded, but even that is a really big stretch. Another option is a chocolate, but I don't know much about the genetics of this color, and based on the parents, I really doubt this is the case.

    I would say they are agouti hooded, but if the parents were either black hooded or albino (though I suspect they are some beige variation), then I dont see any possible way for you to have produced agouti coloring.
  • 01-18-2009, 05:52 PM
    DrLew
    Re: What am I?
    Hmmmmmmmmmmm look like "FOOD" :snake:
  • 01-18-2009, 05:56 PM
    JenH
    Re: What am I?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DrLew View Post
    Hmmmmmmmmmmm look like "FOOD" :snake:

    Yes - they are food and the snakes are enjoying them... :-)
  • 01-18-2009, 06:02 PM
    Michelle.C
    Re: What am I?
    I see a Light Beige Hooded (Also called a Champagne), Mink Hoodeds, and Black Hoodeds and Black Selfs/Irish/English or Berkshires (Depending on the amount of white).

    Chocolates are very rare, hardly any rodent hobbyist actually own them. :)
  • 01-18-2009, 06:04 PM
    JenH
    Re: What am I?
    That picture is a bit dark... there is no brown in those lighter ones....

    Let me snap a pic of an older one that looked the same as those pup...
  • 01-18-2009, 06:14 PM
    ThyTempest
    Re: What am I?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Michelle.C View Post
    I see a Light Beige Hooded (Also called a Champagne), Mink Hoodeds, and Black Hoodeds and Black Selfs/Irish/English or Berkshires (Depending on the amount of white).

    Chocolates are very rare, hardly any rodent hobbyist actually own them. :)

    Edit: I must have been mixing mink up with a different color....now that I went back to look at them again, they do look like mink hooded. Good production, from what I hear, mink's are fairly rare too.

    I agree though, chocolates are very rare, and I really doubt it is the case, but that is the closest coloring I can think of based on those pics.
  • 01-18-2009, 06:34 PM
    JamieLynn
    Re: What am I?
    remember although your origional breeders may have been "albino"-ish, albino parents don't always have all albino babies. I had 2 albino mice once have a litter of 13, all 13 where solid black, now there are colors and patterns coming out.
    I also had a fawn hooded dumbo girl that was bread with a black hooded dumbo male, and some where black hooded, some fawn hooded, then I got a couple blue, and some champagne. the next generation gave me some hairless too.
  • 01-18-2009, 10:46 PM
    JenH
    Re: What am I?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JamieC View Post
    remember although your origional breeders may have been "albino"-ish, albino parents don't always have all albino babies. I had 2 albino mice once have a litter of 13, all 13 where solid black, now there are colors and patterns coming out.
    I also had a fawn hooded dumbo girl that was bread with a black hooded dumbo male, and some where black hooded, some fawn hooded, then I got a couple blue, and some champagne. the next generation gave me some hairless too.

    Yeah - with 4 litters I would say dad isn't het for albino.....
  • 01-18-2009, 11:25 PM
    JenH
    Re: What am I?
    Here is a pic of dad....

    http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd265/henske/dad.jpg

    Here is a better pic of one of the light babies in the above litter and below is an older half sib....

    http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/d...enske/baby.jpg

    http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/d...e/DSC00582.jpg
  • 01-19-2009, 12:43 AM
    ThyTempest
    Re: What am I?
    Wow, big difference in the pics. The older pup looks blue to me.
  • 01-19-2009, 08:44 PM
    Michelle.C
    Re: What am I?
    Nope, still Mink. :) Just a light colored Mink.

    Minks can be pretty variable, from a really dark, almost chocolaty brown, to a like greyish brown. All are still considered Mink.
  • 01-19-2009, 10:21 PM
    littleindiangirl
    Re: What am I?
    In the top pics, it could be a terrible pic of a russian blue, but in the close ups, they dont have the usual heathering that russian blues have, so it looks Mink to me.

    Adorable! I still don't have any minks. :(
  • 01-20-2009, 01:25 AM
    Michelle.C
    Re: What am I?
    Here is a litter of Minks I had, showing how variable they can be.

    http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/j...n/IMG_6085.jpg

    I have to say, of all of the colors of rats, Mink was by far my favorite. My particular line of minks were a bit dark, but it didn't stop a much lighter baby being born in the same litter.

    The top picture does look greyish, but that's not uncommon for Minks. Imo, still very obviously a Mink, and a cute one at that. :)
  • 01-20-2009, 08:09 PM
    Dragnbaron
    Re: What am I?
    First one also looks like it may possibly be dumbo. Hard to tell without a side photo
  • 01-20-2009, 08:21 PM
    JenH
    Re: What am I?
    I found a sight that had grey ones in the mink family that they called lilac.

    I don't think I have any dumbo genes. But would love to add some!
  • 01-22-2009, 07:30 PM
    littleindiangirl
    Re: What am I?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Michelle.C View Post
    Here is a litter of Minks I had, showing how variable they can be.

    http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/j...n/IMG_6085.jpg

    I have to say, of all of the colors of rats, Mink was by far my favorite. My particular line of minks were a bit dark, but it didn't stop a much lighter baby being born in the same litter.

    The top picture does look greyish, but that's not uncommon for Minks. Imo, still very obviously a Mink, and a cute one at that. :)

    AWWWW!! :love: :wuv:
  • 01-22-2009, 07:31 PM
    littleindiangirl
    Re: What am I?
    Just wanted to say, this looks like a champagne. I realize I never mentioned it. :P

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