I want a leo but don't know jack!

Hey everyone! A girl i know has a couple of leo she needs out of her house, and I want them but I don't know much about them. She has 2 in a 10 gallon and they look like adults. They don't look like they are being properly taken care of, another reason I want them...But shes giving me a 10 gallon tank, heat light, heat pad, and coupld of hides. It also has that blue calci-sand or w.e it is in it. Now I've been reading UTH's are the way to go with these guys, but i normally have BP's and they need a thermostat, will these guys be alright without one? Also what should ambient temps be cuz my house is a little cold in the winter? So yeah any help would be much appreciated!!! What I was going to do was seperate them in a 10 gallon each, UTH for each tank, not sure on the substrate yet, hides, water dish,thermometer, and i think thats it? I don't know what any of the levels should be amb temps, bask temps, humidity levels, all that, HELP!!!

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Originally Posted by dsmalex97

Hey everyone! A girl i know has a couple of leo she needs out of her house, and I want them but I don't know much about them. She has 2 in a 10 gallon and they look like adults. They don't look like they are being properly taken care of, another reason I want them...But shes giving me a 10 gallon tank, heat light, heat pad, and coupld of hides. It also has that blue calci-sand or w.e it is in it. Now I've been reading UTH's are the way to go with these guys, but i normally have BP's and they need a thermostat, will these guys be alright without one? Also what should ambient temps be cuz my house is a little cold in the winter? So yeah any help would be much appreciated!!! What I was going to do was seperate them in a 10 gallon each, UTH for each tank, not sure on the substrate yet, hides, water dish,thermometer, and i think thats it? I don't know what any of the levels should be amb temps, bask temps, humidity levels, all that, HELP!!!

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always use a thermostat always you dont want fried reptiles (unless your in the kicthen) and two females can be housed together just fine

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good luck and have fun i love my leos

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Originally Posted by dsmalex97

Hey everyone! A girl i know has a couple of leo she needs out of her house, and I want them but I don't know much about them. She has 2 in a 10 gallon and they look like adults. They don't look like they are being properly taken care of, another reason I want them...But shes giving me a 10 gallon tank, heat light, heat pad, and coupld of hides. It also has that blue calci-sand or w.e it is in it. Now I've been reading UTH's are the way to go with these guys, but i normally have BP's and they need a thermostat, will these guys be alright without one? Also what should ambient temps be cuz my house is a little cold in the winter? So yeah any help would be much appreciated!!! What I was going to do was seperate them in a 10 gallon each, UTH for each tank, not sure on the substrate yet, hides, water dish,thermometer, and i think thats it? I don't know what any of the levels should be amb temps, bask temps, humidity levels, all that, HELP!!!

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Leo's are easy to care for, they can eat about 5 dusted crickets a day no bigger then the width between their eyes.They don't need overhead heat as long as it's warm in your house, belly heat is fine. They need UVB unless they can get some direct sunlight.

Dusting is very important with leos, es

They need to be sprayed a few time a week, they eat the skin that is shed so you may never actually get to see them shed. Seperating them is a good idea for leos because like any other animal, one will try to dominate the other. Look at the tails, they should be nice a thick because this is where the fat is stored. You will also see the tail is segmented as well, so never grab them by the tail.

I could go on and on haha. Ummm, I have learned all of this through past experiences, (and not a good one, which I ended up losing the leo) with one I took in and had for about 2 years and read stuff I would have never even thought of.

Here is a really good caresheet: http://www.leopardgecko.com/emcare.html

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Originally Posted by piper

Leo's are easy to care for, they can eat about 5 dusted crickets a day no bigger then the width between their eyes.They don't need overhead heat as long as it's warm in your house, belly heat is fine. They need UVB unless they can get some direct sunlight.

Dusting is very important with leos, es

They need to be sprayed a few time a week, they eat the skin that is shed so you may never actually get to see them shed. Seperating them is a good idea for leos because like any other animal, one will try to dominate the other. Look at the tails, they should be nice a thick because this is where the fat is stored. You will also see the tail is segmented as well, so never grab them by the tail.

I could go on and on haha. Ummm, I have learned all of this through past experiences, (and not a good one, which I ended up losing the leo) with one I took in and had for about 2 years and read stuff I would have never even thought of.

Here is a really good caresheet: http://www.leopardgecko.com/emcare.html

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I think this info that you have given is very wrong, and may be harmful.

NEVER let direct sunlight hit the cage......it even says that in the link that you told THEM to read.....LOL

Leos do NOT need UVB

and I have my leos in groups of 3 females per 32qt tub.

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Originally Posted by Patrick Long

I think this info that you have given is very wrong, and may be harmful.

NEVER let direct sunlight hit the cage......it even says that in the link that you told THEM to read.....LOL

Leos do NOT need UVB

and I have my leos in groups of 3 females per 32qt tub.

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Whoops, sorry. I feel like an idiot now. lol

What Pat said, and here's another good link for ya:

http://www.anapsid.org/leopardgek.html

Trust Melissa Kaplan when it comes to lizards. She's the best!!

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Originally Posted by Patrick Long

I think this info that you have given is very wrong, and may be harmful.

NEVER let direct sunlight hit the cage......it even says that in the link that you told THEM to read.....LOL

Leos do NOT need UVB

and I have my leos in groups of 3 females per 32qt tub.

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Your right patrick!! Leopard geckos can't have direct sunlight in their tank it will act like a incubator and roast them!! Also UVB will blind them as it was proven that it will blind them and also I would have a red or black light in there instead of normal light bulbs! Also make sure espessially if you get baby leopard geckos that you dust there crickets every day as the babies are prone to MBD that won't nesserary kill them but will deform their legs, jaw or tail as I have had this happen if you don't give them calcium!! Patrick that was good that you pointed that info out cause that could of harmed or killed a leopard gecko!!:gj:

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Originally Posted by crazy4reptiles88

Your right patrick!! Leopard geckos can't have direct sunlight in their tank it will act like a incubator and roast them!! Also UVB will blind them as it was proven that it will blind them and also I would have a red or black light in there instead of normal light bulbs! Also make sure espessially if you get baby leopard geckos that you dust there crickets every day as the babies are prone to MBD that won't nesserary kill them but will deform their legs, jaw or tail as I have had this happen if you don't give them calcium!! Patrick that was good that you pointed that info out cause that could of harmed or killed a leopard gecko!!:gj:

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I apologize for saying UVB or direct sunlight, I just replied to a thread about bearded dragons and yea anyways, I apologize. I had a leo a while ago that passed on due to being mistreated and I never had UV anything on the tank, only a UTH.

Thanks Pat, wasn't trying to give wrong information or anything, just an oversight on my part.

I like the sound of the tub idea! I can't stand aquariums for some reason lol. Ever since I got into balls and found out that sterilite tubs can be used, I think its the greatest thing in the world. But now that caresheet said to use sand, now how come every other site says not to use sand? Ok heres what im doing someone correct me if I'm wrong please...Getting a 32qt tub, soldering some holes, laying some paper towel down, attaching UTH with rheostat, and setting up misc things in tank. Now being that im using a rheostat, the temp is going to fluxuate, are these guys really sensitive with temps? I mean its probably going to range from like 88-96 degrees, are those safe temps? Again thermostats are kinda expensive, and I don't have the money right now for one. Also the one dude said feed 5 dusted crickets a day, does that sound right as well?

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Everything you EVER need to know about Leos can be found here.

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Originally Posted by dsmalex97

Also the one dude said feed 5 dusted crickets a day, does that sound right as well?

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Yes that is correct :P but I also said no bigger then the width between their eyes because this can cause impaction, they can also eat mealworms but becareful, they should be used as a treat otherwise if you want to feed crickets again they may not take them.. There are 3 caresheets posted in here now as well.

You should take a look at this:

http://www.leopardgeckomagazine.com/

You can download free magazines with some nice information :partyon:

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Originally Posted by piper

Yes that is correct :P but I also said no bigger then the width between their eyes because this can cause impaction, they can also eat mealworms but becareful, they should be used as a treat otherwise if you want to feed crickets again they may not take them.. There are 3 caresheets posted in here now as well.

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Piper, have you ever kept leos yourself or are you just repeating what you've only read moments ago?

I ask because while you seem to want to be helpful, your information is not as correct as it should be.

Also, if you research ms. kraplan, you will find that she believes NO ONE should have ANY pets at all.

I don't believe she ever actually wrote anything herself, just "borrowed" from others back when the internet was young.

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Originally Posted by wilomn

Piper, have you ever kept leos yourself or are you just repeating what you've only read moments ago?

I ask because while you seem to want to be helpful, your information is not as correct as it should be.

Also, if you research ms. kraplan, you will find that she believes NO ONE should have ANY pets at all.

I don't believe she ever actually wrote anything herself, just "borrowed" from others back when the internet was young.

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Yea, actually I have had a leo, which I took from my brother and had to learn very quickly, spent weeks reading. There is a lot of contradicting information on the internet regarding any animal. One person believes one thing while the next doesn't believe this.

Its all up for debate really. Will there ever be a final book released saying this is how it is done and the rest of you are wrong? no.. probably not.

Was I incorrect in the feeding as well? Because I don't believe I was, the gecko was very young when my brother bought it. He was posted somewhere in the military and I had to read up on them very quickly so I apologize.

Sorry, I just wanted to give information I learned when I had one so the same mistakes weren't made twice.

Cheers - :)

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Originally Posted by piper

Yea, actually I have had a leo, which I took from my brother and had to learn very quickly, spent weeks reading. There is a lot of contradicting information on the internet regarding any animal. One person believes one thing while the next doesn't believe this.

Its all up for debate really. Will there ever be a final book released saying this is how it is done and the rest of you are wrong? no.. probably not.

Was I incorrect in the feeding as well? Because I don't believe I was, the gecko was very young when my brother bought it. He was posted somewhere in the military and I had to read up on them very quickly so I apologize.

Sorry, I just wanted to give information I learned when I had one so the same mistakes weren't made twice.

Cheers - :)

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Go to the source. www.geckoforums.net.

There are hard and fast rules now, things that if you do do them will result in healthy geckos. If the book has not been published yet, it will be soon, at least one.

I know you're trying to be helpful, which is why I'm being so nice. Your effort is commendable. I, in my turn, am trying to help you expand your knowledge.

Go check the site out, they're some good people who know geckos like some here know balls.

To the OP, I apologize for making a mess of your thread, my info seems to be a little outdated.
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Originally Posted by piper

To the OP, I apologize for making a mess of your thread, my info seems to be a little outdated.
:oops:

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Heck, you did your best to do your best, then when you found out that you didn't know all you could you nicely went about learning.

You contributed in a positive fashion.

No need for apologies for that. Not to me anyway and I doubt the OP would see it any other way. I could be wrong but seriously, how often does THAT happen?

I say keep up the good work.

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Originally Posted by wilomn

Heck, you did your best to do your best, then when you found out that you didn't know all you could you nicely went about learning.

You contributed in a positive fashion.

No need for apologies for that. Not to me anyway and I doubt the OP would see it any other way. I could be wrong but seriously, how often does THAT happen?

I say keep up the good work.

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Your lucky Piper....this is the NICEST wes has EVER been :D:D:D:P:P:P:rofl::rofl::8::8:

dont feed wax worms and if u do rarely because they are very fatting and they are like leo crack if u feed to much they wont go back to other food (learned this from experiance and from other fourms i was part of a few years ago.)
mealies are fine I usually keep some in a dish on in the tank so if im late with feeding my leos wont be hungry