29 Gallon Vs. 30 Gallon

I'm getting a shelving unit from Ikea to house the two tanks I have for Pandora and Prometheus and I need some advice in order to help me make a decision.

So my question is: would a 29 Gallon tank (meas: L: 30.00  W: 12.00  H: 18.00) or a 30 Gallon (meas: L: 36.00  W: 18.00  H: 12.00) be big enough to house a full grown Ball Python? Or neither?

I know I'm going to get a bunch of people telling me to get a rack system; but until I start breeding in a few years, I prefer to stick to tanks and would appreciate it if nobody got off-topic ;)

The 30 gallon one is better since height doesn't really matter. I think the 30 gallon one should be enough from what I've seen. I'd get a cheap tub though.

i'd go with the 30 gallon because of the floor space.

Am I wrong to assume most tubs don't have the same floor space as tanks?

depends on the tub.the only thing i dont like about tubs is they are usually not tall enough for the bp to raise up and finish its meal smoothly.i know they eat fine in tubs but i bet raising up is more comfortable for them so tanks in my crib.

I have never used a tub, but in my opinion a tank has more floor space unless maybe you get into the really big tubs like the 41quart or whatever. Not to mention you can interact with your snake alot more in a tank, beside the fact:D

Well, I prefer tanks anyway; which is why until I have several snakes, I don't plan on switching to tubs. I'm just wondering if either one of those will suffice for a fully grown Ball Python

oh,well is it a female or a male?

One is a male, one is a female

your male should be fine in the 29.the female will most likey be ok in a 30 breeder

i so love the drummer for tool.besides the point

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Originally Posted by Butters420

your male should be fine in the 29.the female will most likey be ok in a 30 breeder

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May seem like a stupid question, but... what exactly is the difference between the 29 gal and a 30 'breeder'; is it just how shallow it is?

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Originally Posted by Butters420

i so love the drummer for tool.besides the point

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LOL!! I've got an insane indescribable love for that band and all its members; yes, particularly MJK

a 30 breeder is not as tall and wider than the 29.the 29 is more of a fish tank

tool is one of my favorite modern bands for sure.maynard is hands down a fantasticle writer and like i said the drummer is amazing.im a rockband fan just waiting for some tool.opiate being my fav!

Okay, but generally speaking, will a 29 be okay for the both of them? (obviously in separate tanks)
Or should I got with two 30s?

honestly id get a 20long for the male and a 40 breeder for the female.should be fine for the life of both snakes!

I think you should go with the two 30 gallons for floor space, like they said height doesn't really matter. They will house a fully grown adult without a problem.:snake:

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Originally Posted by Pandora

Okay, but generally speaking, will a 29 be okay for the both of them? (obviously in separate tanks)
Or should I got with two 30s?

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i think the 12 inch width of the 29 gallon may be too narrow for a full grown ball(especially larger females) and that the extra 6 inches added to the width and length of a 30 gal will greatly benefit the full grown animal.

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Originally Posted by bigballs

i think the 12 inch width of the 29 gallon may be too narrow for a full grown ball(especially larger females) and that the extra 6 inches added to the width and length of a 30 gal will greatly benefit the full grown animal.

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30s it is then

20 long for the male.im tellin you!cheaper as well.

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Originally Posted by Pandora

30s it is then

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great choice!

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Am I wrong to assume most tubs don't have the same floor space as tanks?

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Yeah, the Iris CB-70 is 37 quarts, and there's many more that are bigger than that. Plus, if you were to compare them moneywise, the tubs easily beat tanks in floor space.

Btw, that 30 gallon tank is a good pick.

Actually isn't the Iris CB-70 only 30.6 quarts (reptilebasics.com)

That tub says the height is 5.25 inches. There's other places selling ones that are 6 inches high, and claim it's 37 quarts. I don't see how it'll make that much of a difference, but I'll have to use a calculator. I've seen places throw numbers around like a 30 or 40 gallon when the only difference was an inch.

Wow, good to know. I'll have to check it out to see if actually adds up.

Ok, I tried to calculate it, but it's way off. I get 3567.75 cubic inches, but the conversion for quarts won't give me anything close to 37 quarts. One quart would have to be equal to about 96.4 cubic inches to work.

Btw, it's a little off. The 5.25 inch CB-70 has 3121.78 cubic inches, so about 102 cubic inches would be required for 30.6 quarts.

Yeah, just a little off. It might depend on if it's dry or liquid quarts too, maybe.

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it's dry or liquid quarts too, maybe.

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It should be dry which is like 67 cubic inches/quart. I'm just baffled why the calculations are almost a third higher than that. I know the edges are round, but I don't see how that makes a big difference.

Some mystical calculation they use i guess

When they calculate the dimensions, do they include the thickness of the material on each end? I find this so odd.