Black Pastel and Mohave breeding

Ok, so I am paring up for breeding projects and was wondering.

What does a Black Pastel and a Mohave paired together make?

Chance
25%- Normal
25%- Black Pastel
25%- Mohave
25%- ???????

Thanks for your help.

would think a pastave if you get lucky.:banana:

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Originally Posted by hondo1967

would think a pastave if you get lucky.:banana:

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that would be a Pastel and a Mohave would produce a Pastave

Wow no one. At least I am not the only one that doesn't know.

25%normals
25%blacks
25%mojaves
25%Black Mojaves

Im 90% sure

Thats cool now only if I could find anything on a black mohave. If nothing else I hope to have one in the spring.

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Originally Posted by Beardedragon

25%normals
25%black pastels
25%mojaves
25%Black Mojaves

Im 90% sure

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Yep, that is correct. Ozzyboids, I believe is working on this actual project this season.

Not sure the black pastel mojo has been made yet. I'd love to see it though!

Justin

It should be very interesting, please keep us posted.

Call it a wacky theory of mine, but I think it'll look alil something like this.
http://www.exoticsbynature.com/tinley07/amir1.jpg

Yea I cant wait. I have about 30 females breeding this year and have a couple cool projects but none this cool. I will post when she gets fat and unhappy....lol. I am looking forward to a good year now I only need to build more racks to house them all...lol.

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Originally Posted by Jyson

Call it a wacky theory of mine, but I think it'll look alil something like this.
http://www.exoticsbynature.com/tinley07/amir1.jpg

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That pic looks more like it is a red axanthic mixed with something to my eye...

Yeah Ozzy boids looks like they're working on that as we speak

http://www.ozzyboids.com/futureball.htm

see # 28

I don't know what that looks like, but the Minimon (Mojave Cinny) looked awesome, and I have been wanting one since I saw it. I am breeding my Hypo Mojave to a Cinny Poss Het Hypo this year. Maybe if we get lucky, we'll get a Hypo Minimon. Either way, I wish you great luck on your project, as I think it will be a great looking animal. I have attached a pic of a Minimon that I took at Chicago in 2006(NERD's animal).
http://www.baileyreptiles.com/images/gallery/ep35l.jpg

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Originally Posted by muddoc

I don't know what that looks like, but the Minimon (Mojave Cinny) looked awesome, and I have been wanting one since I saw it. I am breeding my Hypo Mojave to a Cinny Poss Het Hypo this year. Maybe if we get lucky, we'll get a Hypo Minimon. Either way, I wish you great luck on your project, as I think it will be a great looking animal. I have attached a pic of a Minimon that I took at Chicago in 2006(NERD's animal).
http://www.baileyreptiles.com/images/gallery/ep35l.jpg

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Oh wow that's awesome! That basically takes my favorite traits of both cinnies and mojos and combines them all! Hmmmmm, I'm really going to have to take another look at mojaves lol.

GOOD LUCK on the hypo Minimon (love that name lol)! That should be an incredibly sweet animal!

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Originally Posted by muddoc

I don't know what that looks like, but the Minimon (Mojave Cinny) looked awesome, and I have been wanting one since I saw it. I am breeding my Hypo Mojave to a Cinny Poss Het Hypo this year. Maybe if we get lucky, we'll get a Hypo Minimon. Either way, I wish you great luck on your project, as I think it will be a great looking animal. I have attached a pic of a Minimon that I took at Chicago in 2006(NERD's animal).
http://www.baileyreptiles.com/images/gallery/ep35l.jpg

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Thanks Tim, That is an awesome looker. I cant wait for this year to prove out. Its going to be a busy season and I hope to see some hot babies hatching out.

MOJAVE.... M-O-J-A-V-E..... MOJAVE :rofl:

I was curious about this combination as well. Has anyone produced the black pastel-mojave yet? Any pics or catchy names?

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Originally Posted by Quiet Tempest

I was curious about this combination as well. Has anyone produced the black pastel-mojave yet? Any pics or catchy names?

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I have and I call it a black and tan but I was hoping I wasnt the only one that has so we can breed him with something to make a real cool something.....

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Originally Posted by firehop

I have and I call it a black and tan but I was hoping I wasnt the only one that has so we can breed him with something to make a real cool something.....

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pics?

I have been trying to picture how sweet a black pastave would look.... Dont know if that's the official name but that's what I have been referring to them as. Cant wait to see em

Eh I kinda think Black Pastave would suggest a Black Pastel Pastave.

Black Mojave would seem to fit better.

Its so annoying that we call them Black Pastels when they really should have been named something else, as the arent in the Pastel complex, they dont produce a super that is anything like a super pastel, etc.

Like we could call them Het Melanistics :P And the supers should be called Melanistics. Melanism being the opposite of Leucism, causing excesive melanin production (true this isnt the exact opposite, more like the opposite of Albanism since Leucism is a loss in all pigments).

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Originally Posted by Oxylepy

(true this isnt the exact opposite, more like the opposite of Albanism since Leucism is a loss in all pigments).

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Just a clarification of your last statement. This is based on the beliefs of what is occuring in "Leucistic" ball pythons, as no chemical reasearch has ever been done, but based on how leucism works in other species, it is believed to be what is occuring in ball pythons. Leucism is NOT a loss of pigment. The pigment is still there, hence the colored eyes. What is not there is the chromatophores. They are what hold the pigment in the skin cells.

was not trying to start an argument, personally thought black pastave would be a decent name since black pastel spider was called a black bee.... So on that note what ever it is called I still think it will look awesome

Sorry to hijack....Juz want a confirmation from the pros here what will be produced with this Pairing....

Lesser Pastel X Pastel=

Lesser, pastel, LesserPastel, Lesser SuperPastel (i cant find any pics of this anywhere...)

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Originally Posted by RuGGeR

Sorry to hijack....Juz want a confirmation from the pros here what will be produced with this Pairing....

Lesser Pastel X Pastel=

Lesser, pastel, LesserPastel, Lesser SuperPastel (i cant find any pics of this anywhere...)

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Add normal and super pastel to the list and you should have it

Sorry guys I will get pics up tomorrow hopefully My father is in the hospital so I wasnt blowing you off just been real busy......

That looks like one of Sean's Cinny het pieds. His snakes are very nice quality btw. @ Jyson

Here are some recent pics of him. He's at 130 grams and a great baby.

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/g...l/100_0721.jpg

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/g...l/100_0723.jpg

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/g...l/100_0726.jpg

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/g...l/100_0727.jpg

Sorry they are not the best but they were taken with my point and shoot as my son has decieded that I should never see my good Canon Digital SLR again.........lol

:Othat looks pretty wicked...... :gj:

Cold blooded Addictions has produced a Sable Mojave, if it looks anything like that or maybe even darker. That would be wicked !!!

I currently have an Ian G line black pastel breeding one of my female mojaves. I was thinking about calling the black pastel mojave a ''Black Mojo''. Don't know if you guys like the name or not, but it's just a suggestion.

Heh,

Why not call it a "Steppe" - that's kind of like a dark savannah isn't it? :P :bolt:


dr del

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Originally Posted by muddoc

I don't know what that looks like, but the Minimon (Mojave Cinny) looked awesome, and I have been wanting one since I saw it. I am breeding my Hypo Mojave to a Cinny Poss Het Hypo this year. Maybe if we get lucky, we'll get a Hypo Minimon. Either way, I wish you great luck on your project, as I think it will be a great looking animal. I have attached a pic of a Minimon that I took at Chicago in 2006(NERD's animal).

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I thought Cinnamon/Mojave was called a Savannah?


Gale