The new arival

I have been swamped with work, training, and preparing for my newest snakes and the venture in to the world of hots.

I have worked with this small male WDB for a few months now and I have to say that he is an awesome animal. works splendidly on a hook and takes well to tongs.
Let me know what you think of him.

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...i/GEDC0057.jpg
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...i/GEDC0061.jpg

very pretty snake. makes me wanna jump into hots but i got a while till that happens :oops: i do have a question thought do wdb have an albino form?

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Originally Posted by Royal_Rodents

i do have a question thought do wdb have an albino form?

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I believe they do. I'm not 100% sure if this one is a WDB, but I've seen albinos in a variety of rattlesnakes. I took this picture at a herp show in Tucson a few years ago.
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...5/2/albino.jpg

that is just awesome but I'm to clumsy to own any venomous things lol

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Originally Posted by SamuraiZr0

that is just awesome but I'm to clumsy to own any venomous things lol

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I second this thought. Absolutely gorgeous rattler, but definitely not my cup of tea. ^_^ Thank you for sharing, though.

Very cool. :gj:

nice addition, I'd love to own a hot. But then again would be scared of it at the same time lol.

Are hots usually ill tempered?

Nice animal!!!

Nice animal!

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Originally Posted by 2kdime

Are hots usually ill tempered?

Nice animal!!!

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Generally yes.

especially western diamonds!!

I tell myself all the time that I really don't want the responsibility of owning hots.. But then I see something like this!

It's not fair that they are so damn amazing.

i never thought i would want a cobra but a friend of mine just got one and they are really cool!!

do you keep anti venom and a snake kit for accidents or just live next to the hospital i would have to LOL

depends. some keep anti venom some don't...

Anyone have a rough guess as to what a vial of anti would cost? I'm sure IF you can get it, it will vary.

David, Crofab (for all pit vipers in the U.S.) costs around $2K a vial. And one vial is not enough... I heard of one instance where the bill for a helicopter flight and two hospitals was $330K.

@ Bobby, if you ever decide to go into herps, don't count on being bitten. A responsible keeper should get lots of teaching by a mentor that keeps hots and you should never give any hot a chance to bit you.

guy in my herp club got tagged by a full grown eastern d-back and had a toatal hospital bill of $667k.....and BTW if you keep HOTs you insurance won't cover the bite!!!

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Originally Posted by Lucas339

.and BTW if you keep HOTs you insurance won't cover the bite!!!

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Is this a general USA statement or will insurance make exceptions if it's how you make money (legally, and known)?


Let's say (hypothetically) I'm an insurance rep and Joe-Smho gets bit by his pretty pit viper. I wouldn't cover it. That's like a guy going the wrong way down the road with no light on.

BUT if my client was an expert on venom and milked for scientific reasons and the production of anti venom I would have to pay for it.

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Originally Posted by DavidG

Is this a general USA statement or will insurance make exceptions if it's how you make money (legally, and known)?


Let's say (hypothetically) I'm an insurance rep and Joe-Smho gets bit by his pretty pit viper. I wouldn't cover it. That's like a guy going the wrong way down the road with no light on.

BUT if my client was an expert on venom and milked for scientific reasons and the production of anti venom I would have to pay for it.

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I'm certainly not "in the know" on this one, but I would imagine there are very specific riders you can purchase wtih your insurance that would cover that. You can insure just about anything...for a price. My guess is that yes, such insurance does exist...but it would need to be prearranged with your insurance company with very explicit parameters...and probably costs a rather hefty fee on top of what you would normally pay.

in florida if you have a permit to keep HOTs and you get tagged by one of your HOTs they won't cover it.

sorry im not too sure about the rest of the US.....should have clarified that :)

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Originally Posted by Lucas339

in florida if you have a permit to keep HOTs and you get tagged by one of your HOTs they won't cover it.

sorry im not too sure about the rest of the US.....should have clarified that :)

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Not calling you out, just courious.

Judy, you're probably correct.

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Originally Posted by DavidG

Not calling you out, just courious.

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no problem.

That's just a very impressive snake! I have no desire to own any hots, but they intrigue the heck outta me. I have a hard enough time dodging my baby carpet let alone one of these. LOL

Ill as in good or bad thou ??