CSI: My Backyard

Ok, I need your guys help on this one. Last night, someone vandalized our greenhouse, and none of us in my family can figure out how the heck it was done. Ok, I'll start from the beginning:

In our backyard, we have a shed, and a green house, the shed is at the very back of the yard, followed by the greenhouse. The green house isn't used for growing plants (anymore), we just use it for storage. Inside we have bikes, deck chairs, pool stuff, and all my bales of pine for my rats.

This morning we discovered a large puncture in the greenhouse, AND a puncture in one of my bales of pine. The piece of insulation punched out of the wall is missing, and there is NOTHING inside the greenhouse that could be the culprit. And for the love of god we cannot figure out what kind of device, stick, board, or projectile could have done this, here's the pics:

Outside view of the puncture
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...8/IMG_0001.jpg

Showing the limited space to manoeuvre between the shed and the greenhouse
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...8/IMG_0002.jpg

Showing the angle of the shed roof
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...IMG_0003-1.jpg

Outside closeup of puncture, there is some sort of circular indent in the plastic, almost like it was a paintball (but there's no paint!)
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...IMG_0004-2.jpg

Punched out insulation, missing
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...IMG_0005-2.jpg

Inside view of the puncture
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...IMG_0006-2.jpg

View of the inside of the greenhouse, the puncture in the bail, is actually HIGHER than the hole in the greenhouse wall
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...IMG_0007-1.jpg

Bale puncture
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...IMG_0008-1.jpg
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...8/IMG_0009.jpg
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...IMG_0010-1.jpg




So guys, any idea's as to what the heck could have done this?!

Maybe it was some sort of bird?

Have you dug into the bail of pine to see if anything is lodged in there?:confused:

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Originally Posted by snakecharmer3638

Have you dug into the bail of pine to see if anything is lodged in there?:confused:

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I just opened another one a few days ago, so when I get to this one im sure if there's anything in there, I'll find it.

chubacabra :taz:

Do you have a shooting range near by? Even as far as a mile away? Or are you near an empty lot that may be used for target practice? Looks like it could be a bullet hole of some sort.

Or it could be a meteor!

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Originally Posted by Louie1

Do you have a shooting range near by? Even as far as a mile away? Or are you near an empty lot that may be used for target practice? Looks like it could be a bullet hole of some sort.

Or it could be a meteor!

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Nope, nope, and nope.

Very odd....

It looks like someone punched through it (by the shape and stress of the plastic on the outside), but that can't explain the tear in the pine bale.

Weird, I would check inside the bale of bedding also but other than that I have no freakin idea lol!

If I had to guess I'd say broom handle or something of the like. The fact that the bail was torn and not just punctured may be from the object falling as it hit the bail. I'd be looking at kids for this playing throwing a paint handle or something and it goes through they go in and get it. Other wise the object is still there.

The outside puncture picture looks like it was done with a round rod or stick because of the stretching. once the whole was made they cut the inside plastic with a knife. Someone was in there cause it looks like that pine bail was ripped to see just what was inside. Do you live in a neighborhood? any stupid kids about? any family's kids or such? To me it doesn't look like an animal.. In fact I dont see how it could be with an stretched puncture whole on the outside like that and a cut inner plastic( it wasn't ripped or streched thats how i know it was cut) it appears the culprit was human. Why they poked a whole then cut the inside is kinda funky... stay safe! and I hope what ever did this doesn't come back!

You don't have any knights working on their jousting skill in the area do you?

Pretty weird stuff...

Doesn't look like a bullet hole unless it was a slug from a twelve gauge. The circular indent on the out side of the shed looks about the same size as the indent in the pine bale. About the size of a broom handle. It almost looks as if someone slowly pushed the unknown item into the plastic on the outside until it finally popped through ripping the plastic on the inside and puncturing the bale of pine. Then after pulling it out they ripped it more on the out side and pushed in some of the insulation to try to see what was inside. That would explain why there is no insulation on the floor. It is not missing it is just pushed around a bit. :confuzd:

this is not a CSI: Anywhere scenario. There is no semen. should probably try NCIS, unless you find any remains... then call Bones. If you need a Lawyer, I'd recommend Denny Crane from Boston Legal, never loses.

I live in a very good neighbourhood (or so I thought). There are no kids around that would do something like this. If someone was inside, hence the bale rip, why wouldn't they steal any of the bikes?

I'll bet whatever it is will be stuck in the bag of shavings. I'd be too curious to wait to open it so . . . open it . . . open it. :P

I'm placing my money on a UFO.

Aw deez years we dun thought ET's were our saz...but I know better....I seent them...theys was 3 inches tall.. dey dun took me in der ol...space ship thingy da oder nat...did all sorts a weird tests on me n stuff. :weirdface

I'm gonna guess curious kids. I think my instincts are on par with Royal Guardian. I immediately thought it looks like someone punched through the outside plastic and the insulation. I punched a hole in my bedroom wall when I was 16 and the hole looked just like that. I also agree that it looks like someone cut the inside plastic with a knife. Looking at the bale of pine, my first thought was also that someone tore it open to see what was inside. Maybe they thought you were growing and packaging pot in the greenhouse, and that's what they were looking for when they decided to enter and check the bags. When they didn't find what they were looking for, they left. They didn't want your bike, they wanted your stash...

Some people freeze their paintballs, which makes them hard (obviously) and they don't explode paint everywhere. I'd check to see if you can find anything in the greenhouse that isn't supposed to be there.

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I'm gonna guess curious kids. I think my instincts are on par with Royal Guardian. I immediately thought it looks like someone punched through the outside plastic and the insulation. I punched a hole in my bedroom wall when I was 16 and the hole looked just like that. I also agree that it looks like someone cut the inside plastic with a knife. Looking at the bale of pine, my first thought was also that someone tore it open to see what was inside. Maybe they thought you were growing and packaging pot in the greenhouse, and that's what they were looking for when they decided to enter and check the bags. When they didn't find what they were looking for, they left. They didn't want your bike, they wanted your stash...

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SPOT ON!:gj: that was my exact theory! i just didn't want to get another infraction for mentioning green. (( I didn't do anything wrong please no more infractions for talking about green I wont say it any more I promise to be good Please let me live!!!!!)

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Originally Posted by RoyalGuardian

SPOT ON!:gj: that was my exact theory! i just didn't want to get another infraction for mentioning green. (( I didn't do anything wrong please no more infractions for talking about green I wont say it any more I promise to be good Please let me live!!!!!)

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I don't think my comments violated the TOS.

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I am not promoting or encouraging anything illegal. I'm just offering my opinion on what could have been a motive for someone to break into the greenhouse, peek inside the sealed bag, then leave without taking anything... ;) :D

my two cents would be , as you have already stated it looks like a paintball and thats kinda what i think it is but i think maybe it was a frozen paintball thats why you never found paint

In pic two and three i see a possible culprit.(The ladder.)

If i were you i would check and see if the feet of the ladder match up to the damage...It almost looks like someone was trying to straddle the ladder between the two buildings or something and ended up jamming the bottom into the greenhouse.

It looks as if the culprits made the holes to see what is inside of your greenhouse. And by then they probably saw the bails of pine through the holes, and then went in to further investigate to see what the bags of pine held. As for theThat is just my :2cent:, I use to live in a bad neighborhood as a child and I saw what people would do to steal things, leave your bike out in your backyard by your vicious dog and 15 min. later its gone for good.

Yall stay safe now!

Not trying to discredit others' opinions, but that hole looks a little too big to be made by a paintball. Also, a paintball, even a frozen one, wouldn't explain the clean cuts to the plastic on the inside of the greenhouse. If it were a paintball as suggested, I would expect more of the same stretching and ripping of the plastic as we see on the outside.

As far as the ladder theory goes, it appears the puncture travels at an upward angle. Therefore, if you had the ladder leaned against the roof of the shed, the angle would be downward. I don't think that there would even be enough room to tilt the ladder upside down and create an upward puncture like this seems to be.

Have you ask your neighbors, see if they have heard anything or seen anyone? (That is of course if your greenhouse is visable to them.)

(Professor Plum) in the (Green House) with the (Led Pipe). :gj:

Have you ever seen anyone in the area practicing with an arrow or crossbow? I'm thinking that perhaps an arrow or bolt from an untuned bow was looped over the shed. If its untuned it may wobble which would explain the larger tear. The bolt or arrow then deflected off something and then entered the bale. It's possible, maybe not plausible, but who knows.

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Originally Posted by Pwilliams58

I just opened another one a few days ago, so when I get to this one im sure if there's anything in there, I'll find it.

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I agree what ever did it must be in that bail. But i dont know what it could be, how would a bird get enough speed to go threw that with the house being so close?:confused: Please keep us posted :please:

Haha, no guys the ladder was definately not part of it, I had just put the ladder there about 2 minutes before taking that picture. I was in the garage, about 100 yards away from that greenhouse, it wasn't that...