Python Security Measures

Hello everyone

I was just wondering what ya'll use for security measures to make sure your investments are safe.

I recently kicked out two tenants of mine who were just not good people. I found out they were thieves and druggies and now I am paranoid that they are going to try to steal my snakes.

I was going to try to put some bars in front of the tubs and lock them in but that would require a bit of disassembling of my racks.

I was also looking at hidden nanny cams. Something that looks like a normal clock that I could just leave on top of my rack. I realize this wont stop them from stealing anything but at least I can have pictures of them doing it if they even think about it.

Not to mention I am going to get deadbolts on my doors because one of the tenants has shown me multiple times how proficient he is at circumventing the locks already on the doors.

What do ya'll use for security measures to make sure nothing will go missing? What about insurance? How do I go about insuring something like this and what would it cost me? Would I be able to get a restraining order for something like this? They have already stolen things from me but I really have no way to prove it. Help please!!

A large gun collection and making the neighborhood think you're not all there works for me. :D

Well I fall into both of those catergories haha, but I want as little attention on me as possible. Not to mention I dont really live in a neighborhood so that makes it more difficult. Its not even like I have any neighbors who could tell me if any cars went into my driveway.

My mother is friends with a state cop in my area and we are having dinner with him and his wife tonight at my mothers house. I am going to talk to him as to the best possible solution to these two. If it comes down to it i'm thinking about talking to a detective and having them arrested for the drugs anyways.

So far the only good solution I can think of is the camera. I am not home alot as I work constantly so I need to have eyes on my stuff for me at all times. I was looking around and found a cool camera for like 400 bucks. Money I wanted to go towards this years breeding projects but I guess I wont have any projects if my snakes get stolen.

I hate having to deal with this sh**

Well telling a cop that someone uses drugs, probably wont get them arrested. Sorry to burst the bubble.

But telling the cop your worries, that may help

You are not the first to be worried about your collection, and there have been plenty of animals stolen in the past several years.

You need to protect yourself and your collection by doing whatever you can. A Camera is good, bolting the doors and windows is also good.

The biggest issue that you brought up is insurance. I don't know how many people bring it up, but there is only one place I can think of that will insure your animals, and I believe they also insured someones legs for $500K. (Problem is, I can't find the name of the place)

It may fit under home owners insurance, but that is also a double-edged sword. Some people had their home owners insurance REVOKED because they have "dangerous animals" in the house.

So, bottom line is this. Do your research, protect your assets as much as you can, and good luck!!

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

The biggest issue that you brought up is insurance. I don't know how many people bring it up, but there is only one place I can think of that will insure your animals, and I believe they also insured someones legs for $500K. (Problem is, I can't find the name of the place)

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Lloyds of London ;)

dogs ?:confused:

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Originally Posted by ChrisBowsman

Lloyds of London ;)

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THANK YOU...

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THANK YOU...

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No problem.

Don't assume that you're insurance covers snakes... find out for certain. A friend of mine had a flood recently, with about 2" of standing water in the basement. It ruined all sorts of musical equipment.

He called his agent to file a claim, and was informed that since his basement was unfinished, it wasn't considered "livable space", therefore the contents coverage didn't provide for any of the equipment. He also found out that they would have written him a separate policy for the music stuff that would've cost something like $25 a year, and covered it anywhere :doh:

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Originally Posted by Patrick Long

Well telling a cop that someone uses drugs, probably wont get them arrested. Sorry to burst the bubble.

But telling the cop your worries, that may help

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Yeah I realize that just telling them wont get them arrested, but im pretty sure I have enough information to get them caught doing illegal things with the drugs if you catch my drift.

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

You are not the first to be worried about your collection, and there have been plenty of animals stolen in the past several years.

You need to protect yourself and your collection by doing whatever you can. A Camera is good, bolting the doors and windows is also good.

The biggest issue that you brought up is insurance. I don't know how many people bring it up, but there is only one place I can think of that will insure your animals, and I believe they also insured someones legs for $500K. (Problem is, I can't find the name of the place)

It may fit under home owners insurance, but that is also a double-edged sword. Some people had their home owners insurance REVOKED because they have "dangerous animals" in the house.

So, bottom line is this. Do your research, protect your assets as much as you can, and good luck!!

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Thank you for your response. I will get on the camera and new locks asap. Even the Black and White camera I am looking at is 450 big ones:confused:. It is a self contained recording camera imbedded in an alarm clock. I guess im gonna have to bite the bullet on this one.

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dogs ?:confused:

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I own a cat and he's not very vicious.:rolleyes:

Anyone have any ideas on how to lock up a home made melamine rack. Its one of the ones that everyone on here builds their first time around. I want to put metal rods down the front of it, but I dont think there is enough space between the edge of the tubs and the edge of the melamine.

Any ideas of securing a rack like this would be greatly appreciated.

Call a security agent. Or go to somewhere like Radio Shak and talk to them about a security system. There are systems that call you when someone accesses the door(windows), ones that video constantly, or only when a breach is noted. Cameras can be outside and inside. Hook up outside cameras to motion sensors, and inside ones to the alarm system.
Be aware that in some areas you need to register your alarm system. This is so the cops don't get called in to fifty alarms without any info. If they get called and you did not register and it's a false alarm, you can get a fine. So register!
Helps having family in a security type business... they give loads of advice.

For securing a melemine rack, how about attaching a piece of metal with a loop that sticks out front of the rack? Then the bar would still block the bins from opening, and not interfere with the structure. It's not bullet-proof, but let's face it, there's not a lot out there that is.

I have an alarm system for the entire house. It makes me feel pretty safe, but there is a glitch... The sensors are triggered if a door or window is opened. Someone could still just break the window and climb through. So I will be getting window laminate that makes windows impossible to break through. It's great stuff! Also, door locks (on the knob or deadbolts) can be "hacked"- it's called lock-bumping. The good news is that there are locks on the market now which are "bump-proof". They do cost more but it's worth it.

As for your rack... If I were going through the effort of breaking into a house to steal some snakes I would probably just carry (with a couple friends) the entire rack out the door. If that's impossible then I would pry apart the shelves or rip an entire side off. It would be almost impossible to secure, so do everything you can to keep people from getting inside the house to begin with!

Let me tell you about deadbolts....they are worthless. With a little (and I mean little) know how, a leather man, and less than 30 seconds, most deadbolts can be defeated.

Dont spend all of the money on the "spy" stuff. Go to costco or sams. They have high quality (certainly not top shelf, but they are good) camera systems witha DVR. Place one that gives you a good view of your driveway and one that has a good view of the area you are worried about.

Get motion sensor lights for the outside. Not too expensive and they work to deter crime.

See if there is a cop who would be interested in renting from you. Consider offering a reduced rent for the security presence a patrol car parked in your driveway would bring.

Get some timers and set them on different things. TV and lights coming on at random intervals. Change it up on a regular basis.

IMO, telling cops about their drug activities might make them suspect you ratted on them, and might provoke them to really do something stupid on your property. Especially you just kick them out with the same reason? wait for a while..

About security, the above suggestions are good, dead bolts, motion sensor, etc.. but I wonder what if you "hang" a sign in your rack that says,

"(their names here) I got you druggies! don't do anything stupid because you are under surveillance". :taz: of course they won't see this if they are not in your property. Besides they are more paranoid than you if they are on drugs. :rofl: