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Not Hiding Today

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  • 09-17-2008, 05:26 PM
    piper
    Not Hiding Today
    Hello,

    I have a normal ball python (http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=75204)<--- Thats the thread I have posted pictures of her.

    I have had her for about 3 months, she has only missed one meal since I got her and she was going in to shed.

    Today when I woke up I have noticed she hasn't been in either of her hides which is very rare for.

    Her cool side is at 80 and warm 92 and humidity is at 55%.

    Just curious if anyone knows why she wouldn't be hiding. There is absolutely nothing wrong with her. She isn't making weird noises, but it's just this is the first time I've seen this. She was balled up in front of her hide this morning, I took her out for a second too take a look at her and she's fine. Came home after being gone all day and she was balled up behind her hide. I just took her out and put her in front of her warm hide and she's just balled up in front of it.

    Could it be maybe that her hides are too small for her?
    Not sure what it could be.

    Thanks
  • 09-17-2008, 05:32 PM
    blackcrystal22
    Re: Not Hiding Today
    How big are her hides in comparison to her?

    They could be too small, or she just may be in an un-hiding mood.
    My ball python generally hides, but usually once a week (or if it gets a bit warm in his hide) he'll go behind it.

    He's a picky boy.
  • 09-17-2008, 05:38 PM
    piper
    Re: Not Hiding Today
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blackcrystal22 View Post
    How big are her hides in comparison to her?

    They could be too small, or she just may be in an un-hiding mood.
    My ball python generally hides, but usually once a week (or if it gets a bit warm in his hide) he'll go behind it.

    He's a picky boy.


    Well in comparison to her it should actually be a perfect size.. I can take a picture of her next to her hide and post it if that would be easier?
  • 09-17-2008, 05:55 PM
    piper
    Re: Not Hiding Today
    Nevermind, she just went in her hide but her head is sticking out.. She might be hungry, I dunno.

    Thanks
  • 09-17-2008, 05:58 PM
    frankykeno
    Re: Not Hiding Today
    That's called lurking and sometimes yes it does mean they are hungry. Being ambush predators they will often use their hides as cover while they watch for prey to come by (even snakes that are fed f/t exhibit this natural behaviour).

    Also it's a good idea to have a peek inside her hides. Some bp's will use their hide as a toilet, then park themselves outside until you get the nasty stuff out of there. :)
  • 09-17-2008, 06:27 PM
    piper
    Re: Not Hiding Today
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by frankykeno View Post
    That's called lurking and sometimes yes it does mean they are hungry. Being ambush predators they will often use their hides as cover while they watch for prey to come by (even snakes that are fed f/t exhibit this natural behaviour).

    Also it's a good idea to have a peek inside her hides. Some bp's will use their hide as a toilet, then park themselves outside until you get the nasty stuff out of there. :)

    Yea, its just weird because she always comes out at night and roams around and when I get up in the morning she's always in 1 of her hides but this morning she wasn't.

    I just fed her 4 days ago. I fed her a jumbo weaned mouse.

    She did urinate last night but I check her hides and the paper towel every night to make sure that everything is good and it's good now, just checked again to make sure.
  • 09-17-2008, 07:51 PM
    Mindibun
    Re: Not Hiding Today
    Mine stayed hidden for two months straight when I first got him - not even moving to thermoregulate that I could see... Now though, he's rarely in the hide. He sits coiled up behind it or next to it, but not usually in it. It's the weirdest thing to me too. Though, not any weirder than what the larger one does. She sticks her tail in the cool side hide, and her head in the warm side, and stretches her body across the middle of the tub. Explain THAT ONE to me... :confused:
  • 09-17-2008, 08:42 PM
    piper
    Re: Not Hiding Today
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mindibun View Post
    Mine stayed hidden for two months straight when I first got him - not even moving to thermoregulate that I could see... Now though, he's rarely in the hide. He sits coiled up behind it or next to it, but not usually in it. It's the weirdest thing to me too. Though, not any weirder than what the larger one does. She sticks her tail in the cool side hide, and her head in the warm side, and stretches her body across the middle of the tub. Explain THAT ONE to me... :confused:

    Thats pretty funny! :D The other day mine had only her head stuck in the hide and the rest of herself coiled up outside of it lol
  • 09-17-2008, 08:49 PM
    AMC
    Re: Not Hiding Today
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by frankykeno View Post
    That's called lurking and sometimes yes it does mean they are hungry. Being ambush predators they will often use their hides as cover while they watch for prey to come by (even snakes that are fed f/t exhibit this natural behaviour).

    Also it's a good idea to have a peek inside her hides. Some bp's will use their hide as a toilet, then park themselves outside until you get the nasty stuff out of there. :)

    My snake does the exact opposite. The other day I opened his tub and found he had pooped and peed in his hide and was just sitting there laying in it... needless to say I had to give him a bath he stunk sooo bad.
  • 09-17-2008, 09:55 PM
    piper
    Re: Not Hiding Today
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AMC View Post
    My snake does the exact opposite. The other day I opened his tub and found he had pooped and peed in his hide and was just sitting there laying in it... needless to say I had to give him a bath he stunk sooo bad.

    Mine peed last night and I don't even have to look in to know because I can smell it :weirdface

    I just fed her now, she at last friday so it's day 5.. Not sure what to feed her now if she's hungry every few days. I'm feeding her jumbo weaned mice.
  • 09-17-2008, 10:16 PM
    nootcakes
    Re: Not Hiding Today
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mindibun View Post
    Mine stayed hidden for two months straight when I first got him - not even moving to thermoregulate that I could see... Now though, he's rarely in the hide. He sits coiled up behind it or next to it, but not usually in it. It's the weirdest thing to me too. Though, not any weirder than what the larger one does. She sticks her tail in the cool side hide, and her head in the warm side, and stretches her body across the middle of the tub. Explain THAT ONE to me... :confused:

    my bp is doing the same thing got him bout 2 months ago hid for like 2 weeks strait then started to come out at night now he is barley ever in his hide
  • 09-18-2008, 01:35 AM
    WizzySRT10
    Re: Not Hiding Today
    Mine was ontop of his hide curled up the other day of course I walked in and he was looking how to escape. Mostly he's in the warm Hide with his head poking out.
  • 09-18-2008, 06:51 AM
    frankykeno
    Re: Not Hiding Today
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AMC View Post
    My snake does the exact opposite. The other day I opened his tub and found he had pooped and peed in his hide and was just sitting there laying in it... needless to say I had to give him a bath he stunk sooo bad.

    Some of them just have no manners! :rofl:

    We have one adult female here, Morag, who makes her enclosure as nasty as possible, as often as possible. If Morag can flip her dish, smear her feces around, do whatever it takes to create a disaster in her cage every day...she's happy it seems. We've taken to calling her "Nasty Girl" for her personal habits LOL. Lucky for her she's one of the prettiest normals I've ever seen (she used to be rabernet's Godiva and is the snake featured on the ScaleKids banner).
  • 09-18-2008, 09:38 AM
    piper
    Re: Not Hiding Today
    Just out of curiosity, I figured she may have been hungry so I fed her last night. It was day 5 but I had her on a weekly schedule, was this okay to do?

    As I've said before I'm feeding her jumbo weaned mice, do they usually take to rats pretty easily or is that a battle? haha

    When I put the mouse in front of her she struck right away and coiled, she let it go for about 5-10 minutes and in the mean time she kept trying to bite it, almost like she was trying to move it to give her a better angle to get to the face. It took her about 10 minutes to get it, after that it only took about 4 minutes to get down.. I didn't feed her a jumbo mouse last night, it was just an adult mouse which looked pretty close to the same size.

    On a side note, I had someone local who sold me her and sold feeders as well but he is now moving. Does anyone know where I can order feeders from in Canada?

    Any input on that would be good. :)

    Thanks
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